HOw do you automate the filter cut off?

I want to automate the cut off filter during a sequence on one sample. How do I go about that?

Is this even possible. I knwo you can automate pan and all that.

<FILTER>
Freq:

is what I wanna autmoate

im pretty new to the MPC too!

but heres what i fiund that might help....


Press shift and assign , then press the pad with the sound you want to modify the filter on and then change the default TUNING to FILTER !

press overdub+play and hit AFTER (assign button) when over the part you want to change and you will record the new NV slider setting for filter (make sure your on same track as the sound you want modified i thinks)


or if you want hit the pad and move the filter inbetween hits you can record a whole new part all together (personally this is how i start playing with a sound)

or for PRO results....

think about the filterbank thats designed to work with the MPC the one that sits on rackmounts and is called the mfc 42 i thinks - i suppose this how you should really be filtering stuff realtime ,,,, and checkout the BIG "hands-on" knobs! (pardon the pun) heres the link for one! (if it works this time)


http://www.vintagesynth.com/akai/mfc42.shtml

just incase .....if you meant can you just change the filter whilst keeping the original track intact then....copy track to an unused one then in programs select and unused pad assign the same sound to the pad as you want filtered then you just gotta get into STEP mode (use TC if you cant find the NOTE you want) and change the note assigned to each event to the new note/pad you assigned in programs window!! if you have a large complicated array of notes you want to duplicate then consider saving the midi file (to floppy ) and duplicated /reassinging the nothes on something else like a PC? you will end up with the same track duplicated but with the chance of setting all the parameters differently (think of it as parrallel modulation i suppose! ) you can use different programs at the same time too!! so on one track you could have the saved setings of one program and on another track you could have say DRUM2 assinged to program2 thats automatically identical to program 1 appart from what ever you change or record differently - using different programs can be complicated but when you setup and saved a few you can always re-use them as starting points for more creative stuff later on or try inplace of existing programs!!

anyway enough spiel hope you getting there!! jazzur

sorry no real time control on anything once you press the pad where ever the filter is set it plays out the whole sample you would have to chop it up in a whole lot of little pieces and fade filter on like 16 different samples.

even if the sequencer didnt remeber the fade you could sample digital to another device then send it back digital i wish you could real time control filter, tune, volume etc

i just want to fade volume on some of my samples but im not gonna chop all my samples into 900 pieces then the decay envelope cuts off the end then you have to sample nothing select silence section then insert the sound into silence just to get it play with out gaps.

the filter cutoff can be modulated by the velocity ( ie harder you hit the pads) or you can change eachs notes value with the nv slider or manually adjust in the step editor.

but still if you have a phrase sample 4 bars long how can you filter fade down without chopping the sample. velocity controls filter wont do that. The way it would work if you could realtime control it.
for instance 001.01.00=freq100 001.02.00=freq75 001.03.00freq50
001.04.00freq25. I have the mfc 42 if you turn the cut off dial evenly as it plays you can fade in frequency. Using the mpc it could be done but you would have to chop the sample and it wouldnt fad nicely unless you chopped it super fine it would take hours.

you can use the filter envelope mate. make it go up make it go down?

you could real time control filter, tune, volume etc

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im pretty sure you can record volume in real time via the mixer screen...

greg

yes you can realtime control volume in the mixer screen even record that into the sequencer and yes you can make the filter go up and down but it doesnt do any good on a long sample if you notice there is NO effect til the sample comes back around. im talking about one pad, one sample 10 seconds long if you try to fade in volume or filter it Doesnt fade it plays out the whole sample at freq 100 you turn the dial as its playing to 0 and when it starts over it plays the whole thing at 0. where is 99-1 its not playing those frequencies because you cant control it realtime.

jimisteele wrote:yes you can realtime control volume in the mixer screen even record that into the sequencer and yes you can make the filter go up and down but it doesnt do any good on a long sample if you notice there is NO effect til the sample comes back around. im talking about one pad, one sample 10 seconds long if you try to fade in volume or filter it Doesnt fade it plays out the whole sample at freq 100 you turn the dial as its playing to 0 and when it starts over it plays the whole thing at 0. where is 99-1 its not playing those frequencies because you cant control it realtime.

Realtime is change while the long sample is playing. ie.

1. realtime - LLLLLOOoonnnngggGG SSsaaAMMmmppPPLLLEEE.

Realtime modifies the sample as it plays even before starting over.

2. re-trigger- LLLLOOOONNNNNNGGGG SSSAAMMMPPPLLLLEEE.
llllllllloooonnnnnnnnggggg ssssammmmppplllleeee..

Re-trigger ONLY happens when the sample STARTS over.

2k/2kxl cannot do realtime NV Slider changes.

nanoloop wrote:you can use the filter envelope mate. make it go up make it go down?

Thats what I'd do... Folks seemed shocked when I made a post about it (some years ago). It only controls attack and decay (no sustain or release), but with a few chops and a lil work it did fine by me for years (until I got the MS recently).

Keyword: Filter Envelope. I does exist on the MPC, its just a little limited.

Mddl Fngr wrote:

nanoloop wrote:you can use the filter envelope mate. make it go up make it go down?

Thats what I'd do... Folks seemed shocked when I made a post about it (some years ago). It only controls attack and decay (no sustain or release), but with a few chops and a lil work it did fine by me for years (until I got the MS recently).

Keyword: Filter Envelope. I does exist on the MPC, its just a little limited.

Pg 124 xl manual

its a very basic lp filter. maybe the AKAI.mfc 42 is more down your alley.

yup gotta get myself a MFC 42 or 2 i thinks.

thanks for all your answers

JAZZUR

i feed a signal from the mpc to a filter on my microwave xt and other gear. if you have the 8 outs looks at external fx's and filters. old guitar pedals are dope. its a great way to add extra tweakability to the rig, and further enhance yours samples. frostwave resonator is very good.