this is how to get the SP1200 sound on an MPC

close is not close enough.

close enough to fool a non sp user, and at that point it's not fooling them because very few even know that the effect they are hearing comes from an sp anyway. the point is moot--have you ever sampled piano notes on your mpc? sounds pretty damn close to a real piano, no?

but NO! close is not close enough. go home.

and elm--i agree **** the listener, if they like what i'm doing tthat's straight. if they don't, i'll excommunicate their asses.

i'd rather know one sampler like the back of my hand rather than have a room full of shit i don't know how to use

Thanx for the Link dawg!

**** listeners, I'm not making my music to please them, I make it to please me, and if it pleases them too, cool.

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i guess we couldn't differ more on that front-

greg

Dub,
your statement is as true as it is false.

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hmmm not convinced....

greg

just to throw a twist on the "I make music to please myself" front...

I MAKE music because it pleases me to do so. I MAKE music that I like. I HOPE that someone somewhere finds it as inspiring to listen to as I found it inspiring to MAKE.

My music is my music - it has a personality because of the way I chose to make it - by using informed and personal musical taste decisions (including the machines I use to make it). But at the end of it all, I like to see other people getting something from my music, cos it's what I put my life into, and is a method of communicating something. even better if they are jumping around like nutters, drinking rum and having a good time (however that may be interpreted).

moving to the debate re. the real sp sound and the plugged approximation - Many people are inspired by the sp sound (as I was the mpc60 sound) and if that makes them push their own boundaries of creation (ie by experimenting with sound) then this is a good thing, surely. maybe they will hit on something which will be equally as pleasing to as the original inspiriation (in the case, the sp sound).

Personally, I prefer the direct route - if you want a sound, get the machine that creates it and stop wasting time trying to approximate the sound of something else.

essay over

Yeah, Arctec is on it.

It's about inspiration. And I'll say it again, Fuk the listener, they can be anybody, which listener are you trying to please? all of them? some of them? the ones that like the music you like? the ones that like what's on the radio? How do you cater your tracks to capture them? GImmicks? sounding like what is on the radio?

If you make your tracks for 'the listeners' you are just playing to a figment of your imagination, a construct taking the form of a generic listener that you aim to please.

If you just make good music by your own standards, someone will like it, maybe everybody, but chances are it will only happen when you push your own boundries and surprise yourself with a track you can't believe you made, then people will hop to it.

Unless it's just some generic monotonous house or whatever flavor is out there, which somehow I doubt is it.

to be honest this is the kind of trickery I hate.....the topic says "how to get the sp1200 sound on a mpc"....then I see some software.....what kinda shiz is this?


"How to Burn your MPC2kxl files to a cd"

Transfer them to a MPC4k



complete bullshiz.......sorry Antonym

I just called it how I see it....no offense

yo ant, thanks 4 lettin me know about that plugin

i'm lovin how that sounds bro

and all you people in this thread sound like sum nerdy crybabys. I'd love to see if you could pick out the difference between a real sp and this

No, but I can sure tell the difference between sampling and making a beat on a sp-1200, and sampling and making a beat on a XL, then transfering files to a computer, then processing them with this software, then back to the XL.

I know which I'd rather do.

Good point Prah,

transfer them to a 4000! you got jokes, great example though. It's true, I was thinking it was some normalize function or something.

I wonder what it would sound like to take sounds treated with that plug in and then sample them into the SP? hmm....

If you make your tracks for 'the listeners' you are just playing to a figment of your imagination, a construct taking the form of a generic listener that you aim to please.

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yeah but your reading too deep- thats what everyone does otherwise they wouldn't stick to certain rules...i do make house music- generic and repetitive or not but there are rules followed which for the sake of the listener than for the composer- esepecially for the dance floor which house is primarily aimed at- otherwise genres wouldn't be well er generic...therefore some people may only write and produce to satisfy some part of their mind but others genuinly want people enjoying and reacting to something you have made.....

greg

buy an old emax and resample your ish through it

prolly wont cost u more than most plugins these days too!

yes but you write the parts of the genre that you enjoy rather than what everyone enjoys, it is where the two overlap. If there is a very popular house track that has a part that you find annoying, do you try and recreate that part because everybody else likes it? I would think not. And if you are making house, I would think it is because you like that genre and the rules associated with the musical structures used are things that speak to you. As a musician, things that you like will probably appeal to others.

Way to much analyzing going on. If people just made music for themselves ONLY there would be no need for communicating with other people about music or equipment or anything else for that matter. You would NEVER play your music for ANYONE and it's just a hobby. That's cool but I like the music I make and it just happens that some people are willing to pay me for my craft. Some of you'll need to loosen up for real... Way to much thinking and not enough feeling equals WACK MUSIC!!!

Doc you're contradicting yourself in that post like 4 times.

Oh wait I'm analysing again.

You can make music for yourself and play it for others, others can enjoy it or not. If others say they would prefer it if your music was more like X producer, do you listen to them? That's the difference between making it for yourself and making it for others. When you are a hired gun you really have no choice, you take requests and you better do it well, but if you are an artist then you do what you want and people can take it or leave it. it is when you get success and get the approval of the people at large that you then get hooked to that approval and admiration and can lose sight of your muse, which is what got you the admiration in the first place.

But whatever.

If you cannot analyze, can cannot go forward.