Finding the BPM of a sample...

I know I've been on here a while and believe it or not, it just occurred to me that I never asked this question. I was wondering if there was an easier way of finding the BPM of a sample other than tapping the tempo? I heard several computer programs can figure out the BPM of a sample immediately and automatically. Is the only way to do that with one of these programs, or is there a way to find out just as easily on the MPC 4000?

BIG_EFF wrote:I know I've been on here a while and believe it or not, it just occurred to me that I never asked this question. I was wondering if there was an easier way of finding the BPM of a sample other than tapping the tempo? I heard several computer programs can figure out the BPM of a sample immediately and automatically. Is the only way to do that with one of these programs, or is there a way to find out just as easily on the MPC 4000?

Hi,
In order for the MPC 4000 to correctly slice and sequence a sample (if your slicing and dicing), you have to have the MPC correctly determine the BPM of the sample. You can do this with what Akai gave us and do not have Tap the BPM tap or use any external programs.

What you do.


1) Press [SAMPLE] key

2) Press Soft Key 2 for Trim/Loop

3) Scroll down to where you can change the Start and End time of sample and highlight
the word "END"

4) Turn Jog wheel to "BEAT"

5) Select the correct number of beats that this sample uses.

6) Whala --- you now have the BPM of the sample displayed



Cheers,

Dave

renegadebliss wrote:

BIG_EFF wrote:I know I've been on here a while and believe it or not, it just occurred to me that I never asked this question. I was wondering if there was an easier way of finding the BPM of a sample other than tapping the tempo? I heard several computer programs can figure out the BPM of a sample immediately and automatically. Is the only way to do that with one of these programs, or is there a way to find out just as easily on the MPC 4000?

Hi,
In order for the MPC 4000 to correctly slice and sequence a sample (if your slicing and dicing), you have to have the MPC correctly determine the BPM of the sample. You can do this with what Akai gave us and do not have Tap the BPM tap or use any external programs.

What you do.


1) Press [SAMPLE] key

2) Press Soft Key 2 for Trim/Loop

3) Scroll down to where you can change the Start and End time of sample and highlight
the word "END"

4) Turn Jog wheel to "BEAT"

5) Select the correct number of beats that this sample uses.

6) Whala --- you now have the BPM of the sample displayed



Cheers,

Dave

Got all that except #5 - what do you mean by select the number of beats the sample uses? Actually count them out? Isn't that the same as tap tempo? Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but I'm not sure what you mean. Pretend I was a retard (which some would argue is the fact), and explain #5 to me.

say the sample is a 4 the correct amount of beats will be 16

its basically 4x x=amount of bars


so if you have and 8 bar sample then it should be 32 beats in that sample

get it???

Got It...see, I just needed someone to break it down to kindergarten terms for me...Thanks

no problem

i use an mv 8000 which is basically the same in this department so i know how its done

i find this to be more accurate

renegadebliss wrote:

1) Press [SAMPLE] key

2) Press Soft Key 2 for Trim/Loop

3) Scroll down to where you can change the Start and End time of sample and highlight
the word "END"

4) Turn Jog wheel to "BEAT"

5) Select the correct number of beats that this sample uses.

6) Whala --- you now have the BPM of the sample displayed



Cheers,

Dave

Am I the only one that doesn't get the tempo automatically when I enter the number of beat ?
To know the exact tempo of a beat i scroll the tempo field until the number of beat is set properly.
It's a bit wiered but that's how i get it, i posted a similar thread asking that as well : http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=28612

phunk wrote:

Am I the only one that doesn't get the tempo automatically when I enter the number of beat ?
To know the exact tempo of a beat i scroll the tempo field until the number of beat is set properly.
It's a bit wiered but that's how i get it, i posted a similar thread asking that as well : http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=28612

Hi, I'm not near an MPC, and won't be until next week sometime (have to concentrate on a dj show this weekend in Seattle), so will check myself then, if somebody else doesn't. I posted the above from memory, so maybe I do move the BPM until the Beats are the correct number that I counted. Either way, I make it so that the Beats are set to the number of beats in the sample.

BIG_EFF wrote:I know I've been on here a while and believe it or not, it just occurred to me that I never asked this question. I was wondering if there was an easier way of finding the BPM of a sample other than tapping the tempo? I heard several computer programs can figure out the BPM of a sample immediately and automatically. Is the only way to do that with one of these programs, or is there a way to find out just as easily on the MPC 4000?

go to sample->trim->region->bpm...........the mpc4k can do it for you!

when i go into the timestrech screen, there is only %. is there not a feature where if the original samle is 100 and you wanna make it 90bpm, to just type the new bpm????

You are in the wrong screen

you are in trim/LP

you need t be in the region screen

MaZe

deaf-mute wrote:when i go into the timestrech screen, there is only %. is there not a feature where if the original samle is 100 and you wanna make it 90bpm, to just type the new bpm????

Also the old school way in case you want to timestretch a 1/8 or 1/16 slice aka kick, or snare, horn is to use original tempo divided by the destination tempo multiplied by 100 percent. 90bpm/100bpm=.9x100%=.9%. I used it for material under 1 beat.

deaf-mute wrote:when i go into the timestrech screen, there is only %. is there not a feature where if the original samle is 100 and you wanna make it 90bpm, to just type the new bpm????

yeah, you can, just move the cursor! you gotta change the beats to match the length of the sampe too.

plus you can change "timestretch" to "tune" so you can change the tempo via tuning it, and view the new tempo.