Techno & House

First i'd like to say as a newbie, this site is the shit.

Anyways, seeing as all you cats seem to love your hip hop thing (which i do like), have any of you people have any recommended resources whether it be literature or websites on producing house music.
I ain't talkin about no hard house or trance that seems to swomp all crappy music outlets these days, but quality US/Chicago/tech-house & techno music.
Influences being the likes Cajmere, Dj Sneak, Derrick Carter, H-Foundation etc.

Thx 4 any replies.

here try this site you may find something here,

i 've asked this befor also , when you get some tips or good sites hit me up with them.
http://www.olavbasoski.nl/

well a couple of tips......

ive found a couple of sing settings v good for house-

57% is good for that rolling house style.....good at faster tempos 125-135....

but ive found that 62% is very good for that slip slidy funky groove (think music for freaks/ carter) so i usually put the kiks and snares on the money.....maybe nudge the of hats a tick forward but basically have all my percussion and stuff on that 62% swing setting.....ill try upload a quick rhythm in a mo.....

also ive found for that straight 'billie jean' sounding beat you can keep the bds and snares on the money and the simply nudge the first hat back one tic- so lands on 49 rather than 48.....and then the second hat forward a tic- on 47....

1bd (0)-hh(49)2bd/sn(0)-hh(47) and then loop......it introduces a subtle pull-push which with the right velocity and gate times makes a nice foundation for you to build on...

bass lines are a major factor of groove- you can use the same swing settings you did for your percussion for your bass line and then go in and tweak further.....you'll find you can actually move some bass quite a way away from the original hit timings and it wont get too sloppy, moreso will open it up a bit.........

more to come but that will keep you going- now where shall i put this example?

greg

dub u got any exmples of this technique

it sounds interesting would like to hear it

or send me some files

i have one beat here at work with me now that i can send ya- its very raw but gives you an idea of the groove.....

i can provide more but they need recording down, plus one of the beats is being used in a song im trying to finish.....but give us your email addy and ill send ya an mp3....

greg

http://artists.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/DubM ... dex-2.html

try here....

tight stuff DUB

can you send me a prgm file.

this is what i'm looking to create
that sh!t was tight

.....yeah i could do that- its just that that beat will probably end up in a tune, so don't mind if you use it just let us know- i mean ive never been one to sell my beats but....well y'know...

But of course if you want it for PURELY analytical purposes then no probs- as stated the mpc has a magic funky house swing setting which is around 62%- send us your email addy....

greg

Hey hey hey, ta very much amigo's for the sound advice.
Thanx for the swing tips DubMonkey, thats opened up yet another door to this crazy mpc thing.

...i sent dj e.d.e a prg file with a mid in- if you wanna have a look hit me up-

[email protected]

laterz

gregoir

Nice one Greg m'old mucka, I'll will send u a mail. Also check my thread in the off topics room, it may or may not be of interest to you.

ha looks i have friends now!!!!!!!!!

grtzz peace

Christian Smith once told me use delay with lots of feedback - it works!

Get a good compressor to make your beats pump and move

- Good ideas in the previous posts but when your trying to mix another record in you might find some elements will be out of time

- try to stick as close to the quantize as possible maybe slip a note here and there (use delay to get that real swing feel)

- Most dance music no matter what your making comes down to effects, filters, eqs and compressors to the max - really make the track talk!

cheers for the tips adonis.

think ive said this before but for those techno backward sucking hi hats you can set a compressor to act of the off beat hi-at and then use a key input to control the compressor.....if the hats last 1/2 a bar get a bass/organ tone which lasts 1/4 and trigger that with the hat and key that tone to control the compressor...

this way the compessor will act on the fist half of the hat and when released the hi hat will snap back up to proper volume...when done properly you can get that pumpin techno feel to your beats....

greg