MPC2000XL w/ Reason

Now bear wit me Ive read thru alotta posts here and i aint familiar wit the equipment yet. Youo all talk bout sync stuff and all, how exactly do i make those connections and shit wit ma mpc and tha comp wit reason. also then what settings do i need to mess wit in order for it to work like yall do. any help would be appreciated...one

take a midi cable and go MIDI OUT A from your MPC to the MIDI IN 1
on your midi interface. (if you go midi out "b" from your mpc connect to the midi in 2 on your midi interface)
go to the preferences page inside of reason.
scroll to "advanced midi"
and select your midi interface
it should work right away.
select midi track 1 on your MPC
if you hit the pads you should see a
red light flashing on and off on midi channel one
in the MIDI IN device in reason
it's the very top of the rack

let me know how it works

Quick post:

I've messed with Reason off and on for almost a year now, and I know the program itself pretty well.

I've tried wiring my MPC to the PC through a MIDIMan 2x2 to control Reason, and it works, but there's a HUGE latency problem. Is this just my MIDI interface or is there some way around this issue.

I don't know if the 2x2 is USB 1.1 or 2.0, anybody know? I guess I'll research that when I get off work.

-tank

laytency most likely come from not having a sound card with DirectX or ASIO drivers. what type of sound card do you have?

I've just got a stock card that came with my Dell. I forget what it is, nothing impressive. I wasn't planning on doing recording to it or from it, though if I can properly trigger sounds in real time through it using virtual instruments, I may consider getting a simple decent 2-channel soundcard and use it as a tone generator.

I'll look for the specs on the card when I get home, find out what kind of drivers Reason is using.

My old Gateway laptop had a Yamaha soundcard which was actually really good for a stock card, had no problems triggering instruments in FruityLoops for instance, in real time.

What's a decent PCI card for no more than 150?

-tank.

da audiophile from m audio is 130 bux.

I too use a midiman interface with a EMU aps card, and I have yet to see a major problem with latency (KNOCK ON WOOD). I thought one has sprung up on me once but it turned out that the batteries in my midi controller were low. he he.

hey which reminds me, how many of u besides me use a keyboard (triton, fantom asr-10 etc) AND use a midi controller?

Yep, finally got around to it, and my machine runs a SoundMAX card running Legacy drivers, whatever that means. I'm not familiar with the different types of audio driver.

However, I can examine the various types of driver that Reason communicates with Reason over. Using most of these, Reason gives an estimate of as little as 5 ms of audio latency (almost indistinguishable to the ear), so I can only assume the latency is coming from the MIDI interface. I'm going to try to find updated drivers off the MIDIman site, but was wondering if there's something I'm missing...

-tank.

go to perferences in reason and scroll to the audio page
from there you can adjust the latency.

I've adjusted this setting in Reason, and as I say it'll say it'll play with only 5ms of latency, but when I actually go to play, there's a significant delay, maybe 1.5 sec. It's ridiculous trying to sequence on MPC or whatever with this kind of backup.

I was told by a dude up at Guitar Center that I just need more memory, I'm currently running on 256 megs and will most likely expand to a gig anyway, but shouldn't 256 be enough to handle a single instance of Redrum within Reason and running only the bare minimum of system processes in the background?

I also updated the drivers for my MIDI interface, which claimed that it added improved XP performance, etc.

Not sure if there's an improvement at all, it's still not up to par.

Any ideas after I change up the RAM?

-tank.

thynctank wrote:I've adjusted this setting in Reason, and as I say it'll say it'll play with only 5ms of latency, but when I actually go to play, there's a significant delay, maybe 1.5 sec. It's ridiculous trying to sequence on MPC or whatever with this kind of backup.

I was told by a dude up at Guitar Center that I just need more memory, I'm currently running on 256 megs and will most likely expand to a gig anyway, but shouldn't 256 be enough to handle a single instance of Redrum within Reason and running only the bare minimum of system processes in the background?

I also updated the drivers for my MIDI interface, which claimed that it added improved XP performance, etc.

Not sure if there's an improvement at all, it's still not up to par.

Any ideas after I change up the RAM?

-tank.

Dude, the guy at Guitar Center, as usual is wrong. I've read all your posts on this thread and I can tell you 100% without a doubt, unequivcably, and certainly that your problem is your audio card. You won't get latency issues because of your midi interface, and the one you are using is fine. The problem is you need a low latency card. If you are on a budget but want a pro card get the M-Audio Delta 44 or 66. They are both 2 in/2 out but the 66 has SP/DIF support. They both come with a breakout box that has 1/4 inch ins/outs. Otherwise, I would agree with the last poster who said that you should get the audiophile 24/96, except its got RCA in/outs on the back of the computer...PAIN IN THE ARSE. Go for the Delta 44/66 and TRUST ME when I say your latency issues will VANISH. You will have ZERO dectectable latency.

Now beware of the Soundblaster Audigy which has ASIO 2 support but does not have SPECIFIC ASIO 2 drivers designed for it. This is what seperates the pro cards from the crap cards. Also, as a side note, the Delta 44 and 66 do not come with a midi interface but you have one already anyway, and some people will say its a good idea to seperate your midi and your sound card.

Anyhow, I promise this is your problem so go back to Guitar Center and tell that jackass next time he has no idea what he's talking about to shut his mouth. God, I hate GC sales people, they are the dumbest, most blabingist bunch on earth.

the 66 has 4 in, 4 out

It's got 2 in and 2 out just like the 44 but it also has a SP/DIF. They call the Spd/if 2 in/out but that's a bit misleading.

I got one right next to me, the breakout box has 4 in, 4 out, quarter inch jacks, and spdif on the back of the computer.

Unless this isn't a standard one, but as far as I know it is.

Actually mono, you're right...it's got 4 ins and 4 outs (same at the 44) with the SP/DIF support in addition to the 44.


Point is, the break out box is IDENTICAL on the 44 and the 66...Only difference is the Sp/DIF support on the 66...


Hence the name 44 4 in/4 out...

66 6 in/6 out

But dont be confused by the 6 in 6 out...2 of those on the 66 are sp/dif only. Sorry for the confusion

you cracked the case!

I use them mono, that's why I was mind boxed.