Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs

By elmacaco Wed May 04, 2005 7:57 pm
yo cuz 40 seems way too high, turn the gain up on yout turntable mixer and turn down the input on the sp, +40 on my emax would sample an ant fart.

Quoting Andreas "By the way, there is no way your 2000xl can smash the 1200, the 1200 is a tank."

yeah, that's kinda true. the sliders would be in trouble, but as you drop the XL on it you'll see more XL plastic flyin.

By HabitualMusic Wed May 04, 2005 8:33 pm
yeah i agree i was just pissed off at the moment when sampling should u be hearing the sample in vu mode?

By elmacaco Wed May 04, 2005 9:22 pm
I Don't know, but I haven't figured out if you can monitor the sample input from the outputs on the emax. I don't think you can and you have to monitor elsewhere, but it seems weird that it would be like that, but apparently you cant monitor the input. I don't know though, because it took me a while to figure out other simple shyt on the emax, so maybe a knowledgable SP-1200 cat can let us know?
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By Lo Pass Filter Wed May 04, 2005 10:24 pm
Thier is no way to monitor the sample input on an SP-12/1200.
You should only be able to hear audio when it's in Sample armed mode. Not regular VU.

Also, +40 on the SP is normal. I use to use that sample rate all the time. Now I sample at +20 because I have a few "things" I use to get a better dynamic range, and lower noise level. So I don't have to rely on the SP's less spec'd gain to amplify my sounds.

Sampling at +40 will not have any audible noise per say. That crackling and hissing has nothing to do with the gain value.

My guess is that your output module is PHUCKED. That could cost upwords of $2-300 from Wine Country in FLA. or Bruce Foreezy. It may also be a memory issue or processing chip issue. Cause some sounds sounded perfectly clear, while others were mad distorted. I'd guess that it's the output module that is **** though. I had an Emax SE like that.

By elmacaco Wed May 04, 2005 10:37 pm
damn for real? you're talking about +40dB in the VU mode Gain page right? Not the sampling rate.

THat's cool that the sample armed will let the audio through, never noticed that. I normally force sampling.

Yeah, the gain thing was a guess before the audio example was posted. It very well could be grime in the volume pot, but it could be a hosed output section.

Thanks for sharin LPF, it's good to have another emu head among us.

By HabitualMusic Wed May 04, 2005 10:49 pm
Ok .....I think i had a short in 1 of my connectors im able to sample now and playback fine but when I sample in "Arm or force sampling" i get a distorted sound during monitoring Im convinced somethings f-d up

By elmacaco Wed May 04, 2005 11:00 pm
That's what my emax sounds like at +40 dB, are you sure the VU mode isn't pegging at that setting? I am asking as much for my own curiosity as to help, since I don't have much time on SP's as far as sampling goes, but I know my emax pretty well, and they are quite similar.

By earwolf Thu May 05, 2005 12:32 am
can someone drop a 2000xl on a 1200 to see what does actually happen? thanks
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By itchyvinyl Thu May 05, 2005 4:40 am
One thing to know about the SP is that it has no input monitor.......meaning while you're sampling, you can't hear the turntable - all you hear is a quiet fuzzy signal.
You have to monitor the turntable through your DJ mixer while you're sampling.

Then after you have actually sampled the sound, when you trigger the pad, THEN you hear what you've sampled.



I don't know if you've done all that - I didn't read every post. Just a good thing to know anyway.

By elmacaco Thu May 05, 2005 5:16 am
Yeah we talked about that. The Emax is the same way.
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By DJAndreas Thu May 05, 2005 6:10 am
earwolf wrote:can someone drop a 2000xl on a 1200 to see what does actually happen? thanks
.Not much would happen, maybe one of them slider knobs will come off, but thats about it. The 2000xl would be worse off.
Now, if the XL and 1200 had a race, the xl would win. But the 1200 is heavier. The 60 would run everybody over.
Lets not mention my SP 303, my tv controller weighs more.

By UNSYSTEMATIC Thu May 05, 2005 6:59 am
If your getting radio signals, think about getting some monster cables.

By earwolf Thu May 05, 2005 12:57 pm
DJAndreas wrote:
earwolf wrote:can someone drop a 2000xl on a 1200 to see what does actually happen? thanks
.Not much would happen, maybe one of them slider knobs will come off, but thats about it. The 2000xl would be worse off.
Now, if the XL and 1200 had a race, the xl would win. But the 1200 is heavier. The 60 would run everybody over.
Lets not mention my SP 303, my tv controller weighs more.


LOL!