Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
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By erkl Tue May 10, 2005 6:56 am
cool.. that will be fun to master on then

im getting it for 500 canadian, its mint - 1st owner.. the guy lives like 5 min away from me!

think thats a fair deal ? ive only seen a broken one on ebay...
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By keio Tue May 10, 2005 1:09 pm
Yes! I bought mine 3 years ago, and havnt looked back since.
It's a true pro machine, I've got it for double of what you are
getting it for, so its a steal really congrats. Tough i got 30 unused
tapes with it.
It's funny w the armrest on it, i have actualy thought about switching my
3000 to a 60, just because it would look so cool :)
About the mixing thing without eq, its very simple and straightforawrd,
like elmacaco said, however i have the manual if u would run in some
trouble, or just pm me if u have some qquestions.
goodluck and hope u will get good use of it. I sure have

By elmacaco Tue May 10, 2005 3:56 pm
Yeah dude, that's a good deal for sure!! Also, get friendly with the guy who's selling it, since he is near you, he may know more people in your area who have gear they may want to sell, or he might have some old stuff that will be fun to use if you can get it from him.

Dig around for as many tapes as you can, if they are beta tapes or whatever, just stock the fuk up on them joints while you can.
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By jaem Tue May 10, 2005 7:39 pm
On that akai recorder.....

What size tapes does it take????

And its seems very "pro-sumer"

it would appear to use 1/4" for 12 tracks...yikes

If you want an old tape machine look into 2" 24 track

My guess on the akai is is sound much like the tascam stuff...in short ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

By goldenechos Tue May 10, 2005 8:03 pm
If anybody finds out where to get tapes for these please do tell... I searched for months and the only source I found was in the UK and they were out of stock. Like I said the company that made those tapes is no longer in producing them, so you are trying to find NOS or used tapes. In my opinion buying an MG1212 is only good if you want it for the mixer, and even then it is not all that... I have looked at a schematic for the MG1212 and it uses opamps similar in quality to those found in the tascam M series mixers. It's OK. But those tapes are the killer.

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By elmacaco Tue May 10, 2005 8:17 pm
I think there are two versions, they use different kinds of tape, not too sure though. A websearch is in order for anyone buying one for sure.
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By erkl Wed May 11, 2005 1:07 am
whats good yall, ok guys i got in touch with a cat who is hookin me up with tapes..

i can get them for 10 bucks each, im gonna buy a bunch but if anyones interested we could do a group buy...

By elmacaco Wed May 11, 2005 1:12 am
yeah, get as many as you can.

If the guy has heaps then keep the number handy.
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By Lo Pass Filter Wed May 11, 2005 2:02 am
No tape hiss whatsoever. It sounds huge and open. I've got recordings that didn't have anything but straight SP-1200 and the MG EQ's, and people thought I got it professionally mixed and mastered. No lie.

In reference to the Op-amp commment; I'd rather have OP's then cheap IC's. If your into mods, i'm sure you could replace the stock OP's with some next level ones to really get the Akai joint open. If I still had mine, i'd be on looking into that with a quickness.

In respects too the 2" comment, obviously a dedicated reel, particuarly a 1" or 2" tape machine, is going to knock Akai off it's block. Even a Studer 1/4" probably sounds quite a bit better. But even if you did purchase a Studer 1/4" 2-4 trk., your talking a $1,000+ for a couple of channels, and no mixer. A 2" is like 5 times the price. And, most any reel is going to be a maintainance monster. You have to know many things about reels and they're maintaince if you intend to operate one, and keep it functional. Prepare to get familar with schematics manuals, and a saudering gun.. And a measuring block etc.

The Akai requires virtually no maintaince other then a thourough lubing/swabbing once every 3-6 months (depending on how much use), captand adjustment, and maybe a demag if you want to go all out. I'd rather use the Akai all day over any tape machine out there, or any HDR.

Before I forget, whats your beef with Tascam!!! The M3500 console was used to record Michael Jacksons - Bad LP. And the MS16 is a great 1" machine. It sounds fantastic, and is low maintainace.
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By Lo Pass Filter Wed May 11, 2005 2:03 am
I'll look around and see if I can find the address and contact information for this cat I use to get my tapes from. He owns a warehouse in CT I belive. He had several thousand for sale. This was in like, 2003. So I'm sure he's still got an insane amount left.
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By elmacaco Wed May 11, 2005 4:28 am
Lo Pass knows his stuff.

I've heard great things about this board.

Also, 2 inch kills $30 G protools systems, but 2 inch is now $250 a reel, so it better!!
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By skalawa Wed May 11, 2005 10:35 am
for those of you dont know what beta max is, its the consumer end of betacam sp, which is a broadcast format tape, for video, uncompressed, prior that they used to use umatic tapes to master on, mastering houses. the tape is a great format, and it is still used for broadcast in a lot of third world countires. the only probaly i would have that machine is that where on earth are you gonna source those heads. the current heads on beta sp, are like 2500, and tht is just a stereo head with video tracks, so what about 12 or 14 tracks.

like tascam, reputations, they always make something tht is 10 times worth the cost of the machine, and they always a headof the game, tht product is an excellent product, and would sound better than daw, or even some multi tracks if you know what your doing.

i believe that product got shelved, and bought out. so it wouldnt become popular. even today tht would sound so good, man, i want one , damn i really want one. tht thing is a pro studio. those tapes are used to broadcast your damn television programs, oh man, i got to suorce one, but asi siad earler where the hell am i gonna find those heads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

By earwolf Wed May 11, 2005 12:18 pm
lo pass filter is absolutely smashing it with the information, damn he broke it down into a hundred pieces then glued it all back together and hung it on the wall, as it were. no doubt someone will then post in here without reading any of it and say YO YO DOES THIS JOINT ROCK THEM MINI DISKS ON A USB PORT HOLLA UGHHHHHHHHHHHH
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By nik Wed May 11, 2005 3:25 pm
Lo Pass Filter wrote:In reference to the Op-amp commment; I'd rather have OP's then cheap IC's.


Op-amps are IC's (integrated circuits).