So who's copping the 1000???

I can't tell from looking at it if the pads are smaller than on the 2000xl/4000 line. It kind of looks like it might be. That's the only thing that would keep me from getting it.

Other than that, it might be smaller than the 2000xl but it's got some extra features. USB connectivity, compact flashcard and that shizzy looks to be quite helpful. And the size is nice as well. I don't like the look of some of the knobs and I can't figure out why they've got the start/play button above the other buttons when all MPC heads won't be used to that. I guess its in the name of compactivity. <--- is that a word?

Anyway, I hope they come out with a model with less flashy colors than the images they've released. At a street price of something like $800 or so, who can afford not to buy it?

Already invested in the MPC 2000XL Studio Plus a few years ago. My pockets will not be able to handle the blow.

Uno/1

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this would seem like a vanity toy for anyone who has an mpc...I got loads of gear on my list so this isnt even an option right now....but its nice and it would be cool to have something to take with me on the road or something.....

Not yet. My 2kxl's workin well. I also got an 60 and I can work perfectly like that and don't really feel like I need something else or more.
First I wanna get the upgrade kit for my 60!
In addition to that, like somebody else said, the pads seem to be smaller and having big hands, I doubt it would be a good thang for me.

I dont wanna restate the obvious, but I dont think the 1000 is geared towards using with an mpc 2k or relplacing one (onyl 4 outs stuff like that) this 1000 has gotta be for the "entry level" crowd. the people moving UP from the Akai S20/BOss sp303/yamaha su200
and up to the:
Korg ES-1, yamaha su-700, SP808 range, the "mid level" or "semi pro" samplers (I like to call them semipro).

Then the next step is the mpc2000/3000/4000, yamaha a50000 whatever they call it, emu 5000ultra etc.

It seems to me that a lot of noobs are going right into the 2kxl market and they just arent ready, they dont have the background in phrase sampling or sampling that being a dj gives you or using phrase samplers to make beats for a while, a lot of them just decide they wanna make beats and the best know thing is the MPC so they cop one and jump right in the deep end.

Now with the economy in the US all faulty, and software samplers becoming the new ish, the mid range market has opened up, now someoene who wants to learn a pro kit (after they learned the basics), but dont wanna drop 1500 to do it can use the 1000, AND someone who dont wanna waste 300-400 dollars on a sp 303 only to learn it and master it and be ready to move on in 1 year can cop the mid level one and lern the basics AND the advanced stuff at the same time for 1/2 the price of the MPC 2000/3000/4000

that is a good market to cover. Im sure the 1000 will have good resale value for these 2 points, that both the vet and the rookie can use taht ish, so the peeps that wanna use it, save an extra 800 dollars, then sell the 1000 and cop a 2000 or save 1200 and cop a 4000 will be all good.

I dunno Foo. I'm not sure yet, and I haven't really studied the specs but from what I see, it only seems like a yougner brother to the 2000xl because of its size. Yeah, it's only got the 4 outs instead of 8 but that's not the biggest deal in the world. Hell, my Triton Studio only has 4 outs. At least those 4 outs are standard. The 8 outs on the 2000xl cost as much as about 1/3 of the 1000. There is some functionality that actually makes the 1000 better in some respects. I'm going to assume it uses the same sampling engine as the 2000xl but who knows? Anyway, Ill wait and see...thats why I was a "possibly".

The pole filters, portability, media storage (no more zip errors), and usb have me leaning towards one. I dont think its a step down from the 2000XL, well just have to wait to see how it sounds, they may have cut some corners in the AD department to get that street price.

I'm feelin brotha Foo on this...definately geared 2wards the "noobs" as brotha Foo so kindly stated. I really dont see the need for this mp - if I were just startin out then maybe, i'm lookin to progress not regress.

Why are you feeling like its for the "noobs"? I can't figure out anything about it that makes it less complicated than the 2000xl. Let's face it, operating the 2000 isn't exactly rocket science.

Dr.Foo wrote:I dont wanna restate the obvious, but I dont think the 1000 is geared towards using with an mpc 2k or relplacing one (onyl 4 outs stuff like that) this 1000 has gotta be for the "entry level" crowd. the people moving UP from the Akai S20/BOss sp303/yamaha su200
and up to the:
Korg ES-1, yamaha su-700, SP808 range, the "mid level" or "semi pro" samplers (I like to call them semipro).

Then the next step is the mpc2000/3000/4000, yamaha a50000 whatever they call it, emu 5000ultra etc.

It seems to me that a lot of noobs are going right into the 2kxl market and they just arent ready, they dont have the background in phrase sampling or sampling that being a dj gives you or using phrase samplers to make beats for a while, a lot of them just decide they wanna make beats and the best know thing is the MPC so they cop one and jump right in the deep end.

Now with the economy in the US all faulty, and software samplers becoming the new ish, the mid range market has opened up, now someoene who wants to learn a pro kit (after they learned the basics), but dont wanna drop 1500 to do it can use the 1000, AND someone who dont wanna waste 300-400 dollars on a sp 303 only to learn it and master it and be ready to move on in 1 year can cop the mid level one and lern the basics AND the advanced stuff at the same time for 1/2 the price of the MPC 2000/3000/4000

that is a good market to cover. Im sure the 1000 will have good resale value for these 2 points, that both the vet and the rookie can use taht ish, so the peeps that wanna use it, save an extra 800 dollars, then sell the 1000 and cop a 2000 or save 1200 and cop a 4000 will be all good.

good points, but I still feel the best way to first learn how to operate any gear is to go to a pawn shop and buy small gear first to learn the basics. MPCs are too advanced for someone whos never made a beat other than pounding on the lunch table.

nah, I mean perhaps that was true years ago before the internet became accessible but now, all you hafta do is just listen and research and just ask a few questions before you buy and then practice and stuff afterwards.....I dont think the 1000 would be any more or less of an intuitive machine than the 2000xl is. as long as you know the basics and can hear somewhat good and follow directions than its not a hard machine to learn how to use...now of course you wont be a dj premier or shadow in a well month or even six months to a year but I dont buy the rationale that the 1000 is for "noobs".....I think it was just a market building move by akai to bring the MPC to those who are thinking of investing that same money in to a daw or those who are just starting out and want a piece of that MPC functionality.....

I agree mostly with what Swiss has to say but if I can take it a step farther, Akai knows that in order to compete with the ever advancing and evolving software markets, they need to have a cost worthy and neccessay alternative. The MPC1000 is the antethisis of the software market. You don't need a large clunky computer, and it's cost effective. The MPC1000 will cost just a tad more than buying Cubase SX 2.0 and will actually cost less than buying Nuendo so at the end of the day, Akai isn't trying to make a lesser MPC but rather one that will be more competitive in today's market.

As far as gear goes, it doesn't get much easier than an MPC (save the 4000, which is a lot more complicated). There is no doubt that the 1000 has some advantages over the 2000xl like memory, size (although some might not like the compact size), USB (ability to hook up to computer vis USB). Hopefully we will be able to use AKsys as in the 4000. I am VERY interested in trying one and out and seeing if the feel is the same. The more I learn, the more I want.

By the way, the pads are exactly the same as the 2000xl/4000..I've checked.

I agree with doveski, this doesn't seem to be a step down from the XL as much as just a more portable solution. 3 filters, built in fx, more memory, spidf in/out, reliable storage, usb, foot switch inputs, preset sounds. It just comes down to the quality and sound of the unit. I'll be getting one so I'll let everyone know what's what. If it works out the first thing I'm gonna do is send it to Forat for a paint job. I don't know what the f**k Akai was thinking when they picked the color scheme for the 1000, DAMN! By the way, does anybody know what the street price is lookin' like?

JusDaFied wrote:Why are you feeling like its for the "noobs"? I can't figure out anything about it that makes it less complicated than the 2000xl. Let's face it, operating the 2000 isn't exactly rocket science.

cuz of the: Price, the fact that, in a pro or even semi pro setting (which to me, means how FAST you turn out the beats, no pro sits down for 4 months like I do and work on a beat. Well, I shouldnt say "No" but not many. (shadow, cut chemist etc.)

the price, the fact that a new person is usually pretty adverse to spending 1800 + the cost to get a zip, memory, zip disks, etc. youre looking at 2000 dollars investment. The 1000 is gonna hit for like 800 or around dere, so its a "safer" investment for a lot of noobs, basically to get them off the couch and jump in, where they might hesitate to use the 2000XL.

but lets be real, we all want the 1000 to outperform the XL, will it? I dont think so, why would they shoot themselves in the foot on thier biggest seller of all time? We gotta remember they are a business first. I bet the components inside will not be the same/on par, just like the internals of the Korg ES series dont come close to the triton (at least from what I have heard coming out of both units and read about them, if I'm wrong let me know!

its like I said, its good business to provide an option for the low, middle and high end (1000, 2000XL, 4000) it gives the illusion of choice and it serves to give the a grip in the sub-1000 dollar sampler market that is currently dominated by Roland (SP 303 & 808) and Korg and Yamaha (ES series, SU series) if they gave us a unit that was smaller and more compatible with modern tech that also performed as well as the bigger bro's, why would we keep the 2Kxl at all? why would anyone consider buying a 2kxl at all? I dont think that is the idea. at lest if it is they deserve to go bankrupt.
as far as it being for noobs. as I stated above the price point, the features and the simplicity of its design make it desireable to a noob who may not wanna invest 2g's or more into gear, but who is also looking to step up from a simpler phrase sampler or start out. the "double whammy" of user options (noob or semi-noob) means it will have a good resale value as well, again if you are a noob, you look at this too since what if you dont like making music this way? if you buy a 2kXL drop 2 g's then sell it for 1200 in a month you lost 8 bills! If you buy a 1000, use it for a month and then sell it for 650 you only lost 150 bux. That is nice.

Scrait up and down mane, I agree with what Foo is saying...the question I have is this-Is this new MPC gonna stomp the 3k/60 series market?......I mean, we can pretty much consider the 2k market dead as now you can step up to a basic 2kxl instead of going halfass with a 2k....not to knock anyone who has a 2k but I think once the 1k hits anyone trying to sell a 2kis gonna be hurtin'.....