Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By Smoove03 Thu May 12, 2005 3:01 pm
im comparing it with what i've used which is all i can do...

Fruity Loops
Dreamstation

thats all I've used. Fruity loops seriously limited me. Even with the piano roll feature. it just didnt do what i could do with hardware. you make valid points, but like the title said in your opinion......i feel you though man everything you've said

By mwalker Thu May 12, 2005 3:22 pm
this setup ozone (midi controllor, audio card), mpd 16, cubase se, reason 3.0, recycle and a lappy can do what "most" hardware home studio can do at a fraction of the cost. period.

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everything fits in this bag. therefore you can take it anywhere with you.

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By Smoove03 Thu May 12, 2005 3:28 pm
i like the looks of that. see, i used to love software. when i bought my mpc i didnt know how i was gonna do anything without a mouse. im sure you right about somethings but it all boils down to personal preference i guess. how much did all that cost? looks pretty simple

By mwalker Thu May 12, 2005 3:44 pm
reason - $350
cubase se - $100
recycle - $150
mpd 16/trigger finger - $200
ozone (midi controllor/sound card) - $180
lappy (dont need a top of the line lappy for these software) - $1000

for $1980 you could have this setup.

now, how much would a hardware setup cost to do the same things.

fanton/motif/etc - $1000
mpc2000xl (loaded) - $1700
midi controllor - $150
hardware recorder with cd-r - $1200
cables - $100

total - $4150

i feel i could get the some results (musically) on both these setups but why pay an extra $2000 for hardware. i know the hardware looks nice when you boys come by but the software can get the job done also.
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By jaem Thu May 12, 2005 8:57 pm
I'm not sure if I should jump in.....

oh fuk it...

Sir Texas Ranger....watch what you say there are ppl on this forum who don't have experience enough to make a sound judgement??!?!??!??!!

I THINK NOT....

Judging from your software library it would appear you are quite inexperienced....

50 sw programs....unless you're about 50 I doubt you have enough experience to judge all of them....


btw....those boxes would make good fire kindling (make sure the discs are still in the box)

ever heard of a small concept called stability....try attaining it with your wall of wasted money (ie the sw boxes)

btw how do you plan to export your cubase mixes to a PT equipped studio.eheheh?


I can use the 8 outs on the mpc......


I suppose its because SW is so much more flexible huh? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

By mwalker Thu May 12, 2005 9:12 pm
Judging from your software library it would appear you are quite inexperienced....

50 sw programs....unless you're about 50 I doubt you have enough experience to judge all of them....


stop hating, man. i have forgot more about music than you will ever know. every piece of software i have serves a purpose from bass sound to electic keys to drums to synths to audio recording to chopping to mastering to effects to whatever is needed to make modern music on a pc. i bet i have more hardware than you too. huh?

ever heard of a small concept called stability....try attaining it with your wall of wasted money (ie the sw boxes)


by system is very stable, rock solid. plus, why should you worry about "MY" wasted money? i quess there is a chance my software cost more than you whole studio. huh?

btw how do you plan to export your cubase mixes to a PT equipped studio.eheheh?


I can use the 8 outs on the mpc......


well, to export to to a PT equipped studio from cubase just export each midi/vsti track to a wave file and burn thems to dvd plus i own mpc2000 with 8 out too but i rather carry a dvd disk to a studio than my mpc.

jaem,

dont hate the player hate the game but first you should start learning and understanding the game before you sound off. how long have you own a mpc? i have had one for about 9 years now. so, when you do sound off make sure you are talking to someone you know more than. ok cuz. :D
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By jaem Thu May 12, 2005 9:21 pm
jaem,

dont hate the player hate the game but first you should start learning and understanding the game before you sound off. how long have you own a mpc? i have had one for about 9 years now. so, when you do sound off make sure you are talking to someone you know more than. ok cuz. Very Happy



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So what classes should I take to learn the game old wise one????

cuz....**** I aint no crip watch your mouth :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

btw burning files to wav is not saving a mix, its just saving the audio files, but I guess you probaly knew that already huh?????


I said How do you transport a mix and from where I sit my guess is you couldn't mix my shower water
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By mwalker Thu May 12, 2005 9:44 pm
btw burning files to wav is not saving a mix, its just saving the audio files, but I guess you probaly knew that already huh?eh?


export the mix in cubase and burn it to dvd.

So what classes should I take to learn the game old wise one?eh


only God knows but your should start at 100 level not even 101.

I said How do you transport a mix and from where I sit my guess is you couldn't mix my shower water


no i could not mix your shower water but given a chance i think i could mix my foot with your @ss pretty well.

jaem, you are one of those guys that "KNOWS ALLOT ABOUT NOTHING". just keep steppin, cuz.
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By jaem Thu May 12, 2005 9:52 pm
yes I know nothing and took the small yellow bus to school

By mwalker Thu May 12, 2005 10:10 pm
you are soooooooooooooooo stupid, stupid i thought you lived on the yellow school bus. :roll: :roll:

i was just wondering about your living envirnoment, when is the last time you saw a roach/roaches? i think you saw one today at home and that is why you are jealous about how i waste "MY" money on software. by the way roaches to me mean low income area.

did you wear the george washington hair do they use to sport in the mid-west. that Sh!t looked pretty stupid too but i know, it looked nice on you.
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By -{n8}- Thu May 12, 2005 10:36 pm
i think its stupid to post in a "hardware vs software" thread and expect not to see a difference in opinion.

and seriously guys.. you need to work on those disses. i'm all for a nice online flame but get some material that is funny to people without the iq of a four year old. if you have to explain what you mean by seeing "cockroaches in your house" than chances are you're not being clear with what you mean.

1-0ne
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By multiman Fri May 13, 2005 12:30 pm
IM trying to keep analouge alive, and using only hardware samplers, sound modules, drummachines tubes, compressors, Eq.s mixers,pedals, effects processors. things that were designed to make music not resumes. reports and spreadsheets.


damn dude, do you know what the difference is between analog en digital??? an MPC is digital, sound modules are digital, effects processors are digital (unless you have maaaaad money).

hardware VS software is a pointless debate. its how you work with your gear. i like hardware, a friend likes software, and we both make nice music.

i like the limitation of hardware, and the fact that the ADC and DAC are good. if you want good ADC and DAC for computer you are going to spend alot of money, but a computer has no limitation. some peolpe like the touch of hardware, some people the visual aspect of a computer. its a different way of making music. its not because your studio is ALL hardware, your music will sound ALL good!
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By jaem Fri May 13, 2005 4:28 pm
by the way roaches to me mean low income area.




some might find this comment racist...you might wanna watch your mouth

By mwalker Fri May 13, 2005 8:10 pm
i am black as a boot, brother. :roll: :roll: