Using Multiple VST's

Ok...I have a MIDI track open with the VST for my bassline in Cubase. I havent recorded anything in cubase, only on my MPC, so when I play my sequence the bassline plays. I want to add another VST from cubase to the same sequence but everytime I try to, it plays either the bassline, or the bassline's notes with the new VST. I've even tried muting the track of the bassline, but when I want them all to play, the bassline notes play whatever MIDI is highlighted in cubase and not the other MIDI. Any help would be fabolous.

go learn about cubase!! and midi!

seperate channels!!!!

You are of no help whatsoever

Niceweis914 wrote:You are of no help whatsoever

hillarious!!!

As far as i know you can only play one midi track/vst from your MPC in cubase. If you want more vst's you will have to record all the midi data into cubase and let it play there , no controll from the MPC.
You'd have to do the sequencing in cubase and just use the mpc to play the pads.
Greetz...

Niceweis914, in cubase you have to set up each midi track to its own midi channel using the input transformer. when you create a new project every midi track you create will be default at midi channel 1.

I will come back later to give a detailed explanation on this just right now I need to take care or some things.

thats bull shit!

mpc1000 sends on all channels. and recieves.
the problem is cause u cant individualy adjust the midi device and channel as you can on the XL it makes things a bit arkward.

reason why told u to learn about midi is cause it is not MPC specific, its something u need to learn in order to fully undeerstand, you cannot not always by spoon fed, your not a child, if u want to know something go and learn.

anyway, u can have as many VST instruments u want on Cubase in one project (sorry about 16 VSTi) and as many tracks depending on what version of cubase u use. for SX its about 16 midi tracks, each one can have a VSTi on them. just click on VST instruments and add as u like. select the channel you wish to recieve on and it should be all good. if u REALY WANT TO SLICK as the guy put it, obtain VST Rack which allows u to out all your VSTi in a grouo as use them as a standalone. so its like your pc is one big rack synths (VSTi).

Penfold wrote:thats bull ****!

mpc1000 sends on all channels. and recieves.
the problem is cause u cant individualy adjust the midi device and channel as you can on the XL it makes things a bit arkward.

reason why told u to learn about midi is cause it is not MPC specific, its something u need to learn in order to fully undeerstand, you cannot not always by spoon fed, your not a child, if u want to know something go and learn.

anyway, u can have as many VST instruments u want on Cubase in one project (sorry about 16 VSTi) and as many tracks depending on what version of cubase u use. for SX its about 16 midi tracks, each one can have a VSTi on them. just click on VST instruments and add as u like. select the channel you wish to recieve on and it should be all good. if u REALY WANT TO SLICK as the guy put it, obtain VST Rack which allows u to out all your VSTi in a grouo as use them as a standalone. so its like your pc is one big rack synths (VSTi).

He can do what he wants but its just not that simple. He has to set up the input transformer for each midi track in cubase so that each midi track vsti can be isolated from one another thisway he can have more that one vsti playing its own part through the MPC. Cubase will serve as a multitimbral module but with vsti. I hope that makes sence


I have done this many times with my 2000xl and I currently do it with my 1000 as well

BB SOUND Your technique sounds really interesting could you please elaborate?

I will . PART 1
Start a new empty project
Create an audio track in nuendo/cubase.(set this track up so that the output of the mpc can be heard on this track)so you can listen for the metronome.

1 Create a midi track.
To the left of this midi track you will see the inspector.(make sure the miditrack is selected)
Look for the input transformer arrow(it looks like a bent u-turn arrow).
Click on this arrow and it will popup a tiny window with
OFF
GLOBAL
LOCAL
choose local and the arrow now turns orange and a bigger window will pop up.
This big window is now the input transformer window.
To the top right hand side there is a box that says “ADD LINE” click it.
Now it automatically added a default command in the large window below and it says something like this (from left to right)
FILTER TARGET=type is
CONDITION=equal
PARAMITER1note
BOOT =blank

you will now change this command to this
FILTER=channel
CONDITION=unequal
PAREAMITER1= 1
BOOT= don’t touch and don’t touch parameter 2.
Ignore the second big window below this one.
Now(while still in the input transformer window)
look to the bottom and you will see tab that says “MODE”(right now it says transform) click it and change it to filter..
Now look to the left of this tab, it should say “ACTIVE MODULE” with 4 unchecked boxes.
Check the first box which is box 1.

Leave everything els alone and close the input transformer window.

Now, you need to do this for every additinal miditrack you add to the project but the only thing that changes for each midi track is is the parameter 1 tab.


For example when you create midi track 2, you will repeat what was done above but change the parameter 1 accordingly to 2 .

Then repeat again to 3 and to 4 and so on.

now when you are done with lets say 16 midi tracks
go to "FILE" and save the project as a template .
this way you wont have to go through it again ).

PART 2

With that out of the way we can now set up the mpc to work together with cubase./nuendo

Load up the template that you saved.

Starting with the audio track( look to the right of the audio tracks name window) you will see two buttons, one is lager then the other. Chose the smaller button, this button is the monitor button. I looks like a small speaker(once selected it will turn orange)

you should be able to hear the outputted metronome through cubase(provided you made the correct buss settings for your sound card).

Now go to midi track 1 in cubase/nuendo
do what you would normally do to insert a vst instrument.
(THIS IS FOR THE MPC 1000 ) the 2000xl is pretty much the same but certain things are in different places.
Now on the mpc, set it up for a 4 bar loop.
Where it says “TR:” make it so its track 1
now below track 1 it say drum.(change this to midi) and over to the right of that it will say MIDI OFF, change it to 1A and hit the pads
Now you SHOULD hear the current vsti you set up in nuendo/cubase.
If no,,then make sure your midis are set up corectly.

If yes then record a 4 bar loop of midi in the mpc of anything and see if it plays it back..

Select another midi track in nuendo/cubase and set up another (preferably a different one) vsti as you normally would .
Go to the mpc and turn the dial to go to track 2 now you will do the same as you did for track 1 but the only difference is now the number is 2A , now hit the pads.
You should hear the second vsti without hearing the first one. Now record some midi in the mpc with track 2 and you should hear the first vst play along on its own while you record the second vsti. So the third track on the mpc will be 3A and so on. I hope I am making sense.
I guess you can set up a template as well on the mpc for the 16 midis. But thats up to you and how you work.

Now, if you where able to do all this successfully then syncing the mpc with nuendo should not be a problem. If you want you can create a song on the mpc using the vst instruments and then record the midi back to the vsti’s in nuendo/cubase and export all the vstis to audio for further work.
I hope all of what I explained is up to snuff but if I left some details out please join in and correct me because this is how I did it and it worked for me .but somehow I feel I left out something but I really cant figure out what. I will come back to explain how to sync the two up in part 3.
I hope I clearing things up for some people here because I know this is one of the most frustrating topics if you ever tried to accomplish this task.






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Thanks for all the help...BB SOUND, I've done everything you said but now no sound comes out. It used to be whatever sound of the MIDI which was highlighted would play, now I only hear the VST from the first track and not the second. I've done what you said for both MIDI tracks but the first one works and not the second. Maybe I did something wrong, any more insight would be helpful. Thanks again.

ps: Penfold should take notes on how to help people rather than just giving people his pointless opinions.

ppss: I dont know if it matters but I am using a keyboard to sequence my VST's from cubase and sequencing in the MPC.

well what type of keyboard? also make sure the monitor is turnd on each midi track in cubase. somtimes you have to change the channel on the keyboard too .. see because I have a roland A-37 midicontroler that has
one midi in 2 midi outs A&B and one midi thru so inorder to play my vst instruments through the mpc I have to set my midi controler to midi out b.
I wont hear anything in out a.

It's a cheap casio...only a MIDI Out...I get the first MIDI track/VST to work, just not the 2nd, they both are on those settings.