this is how to get the SP1200 sound on an MPC

yeah, I was responding to you.

oh well.

It's all good cousin!!

OK, I'm gonna stop being stupid, sorry about that, let's just talk the good talk.

I'm gonna get this plug in and decimate samples then put them in the emax and 60, I've recently been sampling into my friend's linn 9000 then into my 60. The linn is really weird to sample into. You get a few length coices, 8k, 16k, 32k, and 48k, sample rate from 11kHz to 37kHz, and volume from 1-10. No monitor, no VU mode, after you sample it gives you a percentage, anything above 100% is clipping. But man does this sound great when it clips!! 8 bit, 26kHz IIRC. If you take a short sound with a long sample setting (32k or 48k bytes!!) you get all this dope aliasing at the tail end, I'm gonna get some of that stuff into the 60 and possibly the emax, really crazy textures.

MPC3000 posted a cool way to make your samples 12 bit in an audio editor using only volume changes. Really wild.

put the link up el...

greg

yeah post em up!

Well, the audio editor 12 bit trick is here

http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=29172&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

the relevant text is:

" Anyone know of something that will do this."

Do you want actual 12-bit or the 12-bit effect? I would suspect '12-bit effect' since I know of nothing that could use real 12-bit wav files.

Audacity can, or any other audio editor that can change volume. Just reduce the volume by the ratio difference in bit depth and raise it back up (normalize). For example to convert 16 bit to 12 bit:

12-bit = 2^12 = 4096
16-bit = 2^16 = 65536

Ratio is 4096/65536 = .0625

So multiply the volume by .0625 then run a normalize function. This 'quantizes' the 16-bit data into the nearest 12-bit values. This is an age old trick. "

Is there a way I can get the "SP Sparkle" in Sound Forge 7.0.

this maths is a good tip. thanks.

Beat, it's right above you boss, follow the instructions.

thanx for the info

elmacaco wrote:Well, the audio editor 12 bit trick is here

http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=29172&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

the relevant text is:

" Anyone know of something that will do this."

Do you want actual 12-bit or the 12-bit effect? I would suspect '12-bit effect' since I know of nothing that could use real 12-bit wav files.

Audacity can, or any other audio editor that can change volume. Just reduce the volume by the ratio difference in bit depth and raise it back up (normalize). For example to convert 16 bit to 12 bit:

12-bit = 2^12 = 4096
16-bit = 2^16 = 65536

Ratio is 4096/65536 = .0625

So multiply the volume by .0625 then run a normalize function. This 'quantizes' the 16-bit data into the nearest 12-bit values. This is an age old trick. "

Phew! I'm working on it! how did I miss this thread!

ah that now works something else out for me- another tip i had been given (although nowt to do with bit depths) was to normalize to 5% of your track and then boost the volume back up....coool!

greg

Just wanted to drop my 2 cents in real quickly. I haven't read all 5 pages of this topic.. it may have changed from the first page but..
The SP-1200 sound is nice, but it can be emulated. Not exactly, but no-one is going to be able to tell the difference. If the plug in works for you, use it, and just tell people you use an SP. I use the emax-1.. it is BEAUTIFUL! And by the time you put the rest of your sounds together and mix em all together, even the most anal sp-1200 user will not be able to say, that snare is from an emax, and the kick is from an SP. So don't get caught up trying to EXACTLY emulate anything. The SP price tag is over-rate. Over $1000 for a sampler that barely does anything. My 303 does more than the SP, and my emax sounds just like it... and both of them together didn't cost me $300!

roxstar wrote:Just wanted to drop my 2 cents in real quickly. I haven't read all 5 pages of this topic.. it may have changed from the first page but..
The SP-1200 sound is nice, but it can be emulated. Not exactly, but no-one is going to be able to tell the difference. If the plug in works for you, use it, and just tell people you use an SP. I use the emax-1.. it is BEAUTIFUL! And by the time you put the rest of your sounds together and mix em all together, even the most anal sp-1200 user will not be able to say, that snare is from an emax, and the kick is from an SP. So don't get caught up trying to EXACTLY emulate anything. The SP price tag is over-rate. Over $1000 for a sampler that barely does anything. My 303 does more than the SP, and my emax sounds just like it... and both of them together didn't cost me $300!

the price on the sp1200 will never change only because of the history its made for hiphop,and the only way to get the sp sound is by using an sp1200

Word. But others can get close, but it's more work and less fun that using the actual machine.