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By murj Sun May 15, 2005 3:03 am
looks like a piece of poop
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By waxmastawes Sun May 15, 2005 4:01 am
murj wrote:looks like a piece of poop


sure does... but who would put a piece of poop on they mpc?
also doesnt help that the pic was taken using the first ever logitec quickcam probably dated from the late 1800s.

By murj Tue May 17, 2005 9:16 pm
well actualy it came with a bunch of poop pre installed
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By c.toon Sun May 22, 2005 3:53 pm
quite a suprise finding the dahan telemuzik break amongst those!
Got that one lucky for 70 cents a while ago..
And thats not the only one on there :P
(I guess some fools dont even understand what they are gettting here. This Lp would be about 100-200 usd if you get it from a convention or someone who knows his shit!)

So, Good Looking out,..
Def a bunch of stuff I wouldnt be able to find here in Europe.

2c: Its not about who, what or where you sample from. Its how you feel about it stand to it. Pay your respect to whoever you need to, let it be the dealer, the dude that used that other joint on the flip you found out about, the guy that sent you the audiophile 24bit rip of this tasty private press shuffling break..
I mean WTF,... stop argueing and make some music.

By TonyTracks Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:20 am
Thanks for the link!
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By Phabeon Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:21 pm
murj wrote:right click>save...as.

My two cents:
I feel that it is fine if you use these. If you use a loop, it will be recognizable and thats fine, but don't lie to your friends pretending like its something that wasn't given to you like chicken feed. I know lots of toys could use these to help them get started. They'll only take them so far (to about 1993) before you relize that you can chop them up into individual drum sounds. Then you can make quite a decent drum libary out of um'. I've already cut them all up into drum sounds. It took me a good amount of time spread out into a good 6 month period. After all that i can honestly say that i recognize twice as many drums in peoples beats.
So use these till your ears bleed, but don't foget to get your fingers dusty cause its all about having fun.
i'm one of these toys you speak of.. n i'm not askin you to hold my hand or make a beat for me.. all i'm askin for is knowledge...aka show me the way so that i can go that way.. n i know YOU done more then enough in jus givin us this link.. but i got 3 questions for you.... n i'm sure it'll help other newbies as well...

1. can YOU pick one of those songs and show me an example of a loop that one could sample....

2. can YOU choose a song on there and show me where in the song i could "sample" some drums from?

3. is this you? i.e. did you find these all on record and put em up?

as you can tell i'm a brand SPANKIN newbie.. I dome some diggin and copped some records...but i'm still NOT understanin the whole "get your drums from vinyle thing.." aka i have these records but i can't find the drums in em.... what i'm tryin to learn is how to get my EAR to isolate drums in records where i can say, "yo i'm get me those drums off of this"..
n to all who gone reply to my post callin me herb and all that jazz i know my questions sound simple to yall wit experience.. but remember they beign asked from the perspective of somebodY NEW to this.. aka who has never yet made a beat...

thanks and mad love for the KNOW the LEDGE you spreadin..


oNe
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By TicToc Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:02 am
Phabeon wrote:
murj wrote:right click>save...as.

My two cents:
I feel that it is fine if you use these. If you use a loop, it will be recognizable and thats fine, but don't lie to your friends pretending like its something that wasn't given to you like chicken feed. I know lots of toys could use these to help them get started. They'll only take them so far (to about 1993) before you relize that you can chop them up into individual drum sounds. Then you can make quite a decent drum libary out of um'. I've already cut them all up into drum sounds. It took me a good amount of time spread out into a good 6 month period. After all that i can honestly say that i recognize twice as many drums in peoples beats.
So use these till your ears bleed, but don't foget to get your fingers dusty cause its all about having fun.
i'm one of these toys you speak of.. n i'm not askin you to hold my hand or make a beat for me.. all i'm askin for is knowledge...aka show me the way so that i can go that way.. n i know YOU done more then enough in jus givin us this link.. but i got 3 questions for you.... n i'm sure it'll help other newbies as well...

1. can YOU pick one of those songs and show me an example of a loop that one could sample....

2. can YOU choose a song on there and show me where in the song i could "sample" some drums from?

3. is this you? i.e. did you find these all on record and put em up?

as you can tell i'm a brand SPANKIN newbie.. I dome some diggin and copped some records...but i'm still NOT understanin the whole "get your drums from vinyle thing.." aka i have these records but i can't find the drums in em.... what i'm tryin to learn is how to get my EAR to isolate drums in records where i can say, "yo i'm get me those drums off of this"..
n to all who gone reply to my post callin me herb and all that jazz i know my questions sound simple to yall wit experience.. but remember they beign asked from the perspective of somebodY NEW to this.. aka who has never yet made a beat...

thanks and mad love for the KNOW the LEDGE you spreadin..


oNe


Since youre probably not ready for filtering or panning tricks, lets keep it simple for now.

You want to sample, and it sounds like you want to sample drums.

You want to look for "open drum breaks". "Open" means nothing else is playing, and "drum break" means - you only hear drums. there is also "open pianos" (nothing but pianos playing) and open "guitar" (only guitar playing) and all kinds of other "open" samples you could find, but right now, were talking about drums.

Listen to your records, and find open drum breaks. These can happen at any point in a song, but you are more likely to find them either at the very beginning/intro of the song, or in the breakdown (usually somehwere just past the middle). When looking for open instruments, you can visually look at the record and see where there is less instruments playing (the grooves will be thinner, darker).

Once you have found something open, in this case drums....you simply play the record and record the output of it into your sampler.

There...you sampled some drums.

Now, you playback the sample you took, and you can start chopping it up. Chop the pieces of the sample so you get just the kick drum separated from everything else. And just the snare drum separated from everything else. And just the high hat separated from everything else.

Now you have sampled and chopped.

Now, using the kick, snare, and hat you have....you start making a drum beat.

I cant make it any more simple than that.
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By Smoove03 Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:58 pm
thanks for the sounds man. always appreciated :wink:
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By mkscholar Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:20 pm
Co-Sign!