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By solace Wed May 18, 2005 5:39 pm
what's up beatmakers? hoping i can get some advice. i just started making beats about 2 months ago. i'm getting a g4 laptop w/ an Mbox to do all of my work in. i also recently purchased a 1000 and already have a couple of beats saved in it. some of the the basic things i'd like to do are transfer my beats into pro tools and add effects and i'd also like to add scratches into my songs. here are my inquiries:

after i've created a song in song mode, do i transfer the entire song onto track 1 in pro tools and then add scratches on track 2? i realize there are different ways to approach this, but i just need to know the basics.

how do i add effects throughout the song? do i have to transfer individual sequences into pro tools in order to do so?

finally, when i'm mixing down, how do i control individual samples (i.e. turning the volumes up or down of different samples in my song)? must i transfer each and every sample from my song into the computer in order to have full control of them? or will i be able to do it if i transfer the song over from song mode?

i realize these questions sound hella broad. since i'm just beginning, ANY advice at all will help. i already know how to lay down an entire beat in my 1000. i'm just looking to take everything to that next level. thanks

peace
solace
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By Mister Ries Wed May 18, 2005 6:06 pm
i think the simplest thing to do is to just record loops from your mpc into your protools, and arrange and mix the whole thing there, then you can record it track by track and have full control over your induvidual sounds...

at the Mbox idea, i would get a M-audio soundcard and Protools M-Powered, it's basicly the same, only firewire.. so way less to no latency...

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=pro ... 7c748b3bd8
By solace Wed May 18, 2005 7:15 pm
much thanks for the advice. i'm still weighing my options in terms of soundcards/interfaces. which one on the link do you recommend?
By solace Wed May 18, 2005 7:56 pm
do you produce ghetto tech/booty bass type tracks?
By solace Wed May 18, 2005 8:07 pm
does the Mbox have a lot of latency?
By solace Wed May 18, 2005 8:36 pm
word. thanks again. i just started listening to booty last year. i'm mostly into hip hop, dancehall, soul and whatnot. my girl actually put me on to booty. i love it. it's mad fun. any other websites i can order your stuff from besides the link you sent me? it's hard to find that ish out here. i'll keep an eye out for your name for sure. how long have you been producing?
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By Mister Ries Wed May 18, 2005 10:01 pm
i've been playing around with music like forever, allways drumming on the table etc... but with electronic music i started making loops in soundedit 16 on the mac plus, then recording them to a cassette, play that and record another loop over it... that was around '94/'95

after that played around with some computer stuff, and playing on stuff like an mc-303 from friends etc, untill i decided to get an mpc... when i scraped the money together to buy an mpc 2000 i got word of the mpc-1000 and decided to wait... (what been a good choice)

that twilight 76 is the best online shop for booty vinyl... if you want mixes, look out for cd's by dj godfather, dj assault (the old cd's) and disco d, but there are a bunch of less known dj's playing this stuff...

anyway.. here's a mixtape i did... Mister Ries - The Mini Mixes

By filterthing Thu May 19, 2005 12:35 am
[quote="Mister Ries"]mbox is usb 1.0, i never owned a mbox, but i hear a lot of things about latency on the mbox, i hardly hear any latency with the firewire audiophile...

If you have never owned an mbox, why tell people it has latency? I have an mbox, and I also work with a mix+ system as well as some HD systems. There is little to no latency on the mbox. If you hear latency you are using it wrong.

I can understand you want the guy to look at the m-audio stuff, but don't comment on the mbox based on what you "heard"...

That being said, the m-audio seems like a cheaper way to use pro-tools.
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By punchdrunk Thu May 19, 2005 1:19 am
filterthing wrote:If you have never owned an mbox, why tell people it has latency? I have an mbox, and I also work with a mix+ system as well as some HD systems. There is little to no latency on the mbox. If you hear latency you are using it wrong.

I can understand you want the guy to look at the m-audio stuff, but don't comment on the mbox based on what you "heard"...

That being said, the m-audio seems like a cheaper way to use pro-tools.


i don't have a m-box but a friend asked me to give him advice on buying one. i did research on it and i saw MAD complaints about the latency. sweetwater.com even had a page telling people how to deal with the latency, and some ridiculous ish about having to nudge each track back a certain amount to realign stuff to be in time.

just trying to say you don't have to own something in order to let people know you've heard bad things about it....

By filterthing Thu May 19, 2005 2:03 am
ok, good point... I hear what you are saying. I guess I should have just said: I own an mbox and there are little to no latency problems with the mbox that I have seen or heard. What I have heard people complain about is the mix vs. input knob. You will hear the delay if you are monitoring the output. You just mute the record track, and leave the knob right in the middle. Now, do you hear any delay with firewire when you listen to the output of a record track? The sweetwater article you mentioned talks about a mbox delay of 164 samples. That works out to about .003 seconds. If you can hear that kind of latency then you should be looking at an HD system at the least. Don't even **** around with usb vs. firewire. Get a dedicated pci setup... oh yeah and get ready to make the payments. The mbox is a cheap, clean sounding protools option...
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By Mister Ries Thu May 19, 2005 7:23 am
filterthing wrote:If you have never owned an mbox, why tell people it has latency? I have an mbox, and I also work with a mix+ system as well as some HD systems. There is little to no latency on the mbox. If you hear latency you are using it wrong.

I can understand you want the guy to look at the m-audio stuff, but don't comment on the mbox based on what you "heard"...


you've got a point there... "i don't own a mbox", but i was thinking of getting one, but when i searched about it, i stubled across lot's of complains about it...

i got this m-powered stuff and it worked out of the box little to no latency... and figuring the usb 1.0 vs firewire thing, it wasn't a bad idea to suggest that M-Powered version...

But like you said, you have a mbox, and you have no problems with it... that's cool, is there someone here who has expernience on Mbox and M-powered versions of protools?

By goldenechos Thu May 19, 2005 5:17 pm
I use an Mbox. The latencey is not at all bad. When first issue, the mbox had many issues, but with Protools 6 and mbox, you will be fine.

T
By solace Thu May 19, 2005 6:36 pm
goldenechos wrote:I use an Mbox. The latencey is not at all bad. When first issue, the mbox had many issues, but with Protools 6 and mbox, you will be fine.

T


word. so when i play my beat from the mbox and i want to lay scratches down on the next track while the beat is playing, the playback will be in real time and my scratches will record on time w/ the beat? in other words, will it all be synchronized after everything is recorded together?