Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By Sixtoo Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:22 pm
This seems like a very basic problem....You make a beat with a pitched (16 level bassline)....record the midi data into your recording program, play it back, and all the bassline only plays the root note, not the pitch info.

Anyone know why this wont work?

I have checked all the midi filters on both Digital Performer and the MPC, but it won't record/playback the propper tunings (just the original note) in the sequnce?

Does this get back to the problem of not being able to not "play" the 16 level function by a midi controller? if so, that is a huge oversight and needs a bug fix on behalf of AKAI, as it absolutly essential for someone like me


PS: For the people that need to know why I am doing it this way, instead of just recording the data to my computer and bouncing....

I'm done with trying to get good bounced mixes in the computer, the bounces always **** with the stereo imaging, and never sound as good as when they are being monitored.

From now on I'm just syncing my computer to the MPC, recording the vocals/cuts on the computer, and subbing the cuts/vocals/MPC data out through a good 24-track mixer to DAT with a compressor/EQ at the end of the chain. It sounds *much* better.

This is the first beat that I have made in a long time that has a multi-tuned bass, which is why I haven't run into this problem before.

Anyone?

By elmacaco Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:12 pm
16 levels is a sampler function, not a midi function.
try using that autochromatic tuning program option if you are on the xl
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By dubmunkey Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:00 am
i still believe trhat multispanning bass is much moe effective than using the 16 levels- you have much more control-

i only ever use 16 levels when i only have one bass sample....

greg

Byadmonish Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:11 am
i deal wit the same situation. I also have an mpc 2000 and i use digital performer 3.02.
What i do is make the sequence in the mpc, using 16 levels then i go into edit on the main screen and match the tune from the main screen edit wit the tune in program.
It's more work but it's the only way i found to do it with the mpc 2000.
holla back if you need more help with this.


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ADMONISH...OUT...ONE...
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By thx Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:19 pm
my 2000 dont' record any note variation in sequences when "16 levels" is on (internal, not via midi etc...)
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31051&p=1164491#p1164491
do you know why?
thanks sfor the answer anyway
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By Lampdog Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:37 pm
thx wrote:^
so i can't record the note variations in a sequence with the 2000?

You don't need to ask this when you can try it for yourself.

DO IT, then go into step edit and SEE what you've recorded on your track and you will HAVE your answer.

16 level is NOT midi.
When you turn it off the bassline remains as you recorded it, but it's only using that ONE sample, geez people
please think.
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By thx Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:50 pm
^
i know how midi works
my problem is that the sequence is not recorded how i've played it
i record the bassline with 16 levels on but the machine doesn't record the note variations
so i would ask you this: it is a problem with my machine or it is normal?
i don't understand
sorry
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By Lampdog Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:57 pm
Use a regular drum track type not midi type.

Also look here and check out your process.

Page 22, 2k manual, Chapter 2: The Basics, The 16 LEVELS key

By using the 16 LEVELS function, you can play a sound in 16 parameter
levels of velocity, tone, attack, decay, or filter.
To use the 16 LEVELS function, press the 16 LEVELS key and display
the following screen.

Note:
Use the 16 level feature to select the pads you are playing to 16
levels. Select the sound by directly playing the drum pad. It is also
possible to move the cursor to the field and select the level with the
DATA wheel.

Param:
When VELOCITY is selected, it is possible to apply 16 levels of
velocity to the sound set in Note: The velocity is played the weakest
on PAD1 and strongest on PAD16.
When NOTE VAR is selected, set the parameter with the following
Type:.

Type:
This allows you to select the next parameter.

TUNING This allows you to play the sound set in Note:
at 16 levels of tuning. The original tuning is assigned
to the pad set in the Original key
pad: field and the tuning changes by half note.

DECAY This allows you to play the sound set in Note:
at 16 levels of decay time. The range of decay
time is set on the assign screen of the note variation
by pressing the ASSIGN (AFTER) key while
holding down the SHIFT key.

ATTACK This allows you to set the attack time of a sound
set in Note: at 16 levels and play them. The
range of attack time is set on the assign screen of
the note variation by pressing the ASSIGN (AFTER)
key while holding down the SHIFT key.

FILTER This allows you to set the cut off frequency of the
filter of a sound set in Note: at 16 levels and
play them. The range of cut off frequency is set
on the assign screen of the note variation by
pressing the ASSIGN (AFTER) key while holding
down the SHIFT key.

After you have set the parameter, press TurnON[F5]. The 16 LEVELS
LED will light up and allow you to play using the 16 levels function.

If the 16 LEVELS key is press when the 16 LEVELS function is on,
the 16 LEVELS LED will turn off and the 16 LEVELS function will be
turned off.
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By thx Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:08 pm
sorry
i've read that page of the manual many times and repeated the procedure many times, but i can't record the bass line like i played it
drum is on, midi is off, note variation slider is off, but i can't still record no note variations in 16 levels
i think is an issue of some kind,
but dont' know for sure
've also tried with a new sample and with a wav sample but the result is always the same
the bass line is recorded in only the original note pitch
but thanks for the help!
i'll tell you if i'll resolve the problemin the next days
;)
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By Lampdog Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:21 pm
thx wrote:but i can't still record no note variations in 16 levels

Are you trying to use the note variation slider and 16 levels at the same time?

Did you try again and look in step edit to see if the notes were actually recorded?

When you tried it did you set the type to TUNING?

VELOCITY DECAY Attack and FILTER will not give you a variation in tune, maybe your doing that wrong.
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By thx Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:39 pm
i've looked in step mode and i see the note is recorded in his original picth,
i can change the pitch in step edit pressing the pads
i'm not trying to use the slider
and i've set the type to "tuning"
i can hear the note variation when i play the pad but i can't record it
in theory it must work, but it doesn't
maybe there's some other option that i must set in some other menu?