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By Phabeon Thu May 19, 2005 9:02 pm
vursatyl0601 wrote:someone said stoupe, i just thought id add my two cents.

in my opinion, stoupe should not be charracterized a great sampler. sure he makes fresh beats with samples. however, i would call him more of a fresh sample-finder, as he loops a lot. hes a good sampler, but i would say the greats manipulate the samples more and make something new and fresh out of them.

this is just my opinion.

rjd2 is a fresh sampler. so is hi tek imo, because both manipulate samples amazingly well.
i'm new at all this n i jus wan make shure i'm readin it right on what you sayin.. are you sayin that stoupe simply takes a sample thats dope and puts it on w/o messin wit it? is that what you mean by he "loops" alot.. aka not changin it? and by manipulate you mean chop and filter? all that good stuff which i know nothign about? so your sayin when stoupe makes his beats he doesn't really do any of that?

how does he get his drums and stuff then tho?

i mean i think he makes pretty dope beats.... can you break down that one song he made wit outerspace and immortal technique, where he goes on about not prayin to roman gods that were faggots...

thank you good sir..jus tryin to get an understandin of all this..

lookin forward to what YOU got to say...

oNe
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By tewamor Fri May 20, 2005 12:47 am
Ouch....I'm an idiot. I wish you could come say that in my face. People on the net are so fast to talk. Listen punk you don't know me, keep your mouth shut.
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By medd Fri May 20, 2005 5:08 am
latee wrote:
Ced Gee (UltraMagnetic MCs)



I love how ced gee is so quick to point out that ultra was the first group using the sp12. he did tracks for criminal minded too, right? anyway ced was seriously underrated during his time (overshadowed by keith on the mic, overshadowed by paul c on the boards). some perosnal forgotten faves from ced gee are "biscuits and eggs" and "black potions (its what you want, money)", which were off that tuff city bootleg a few years back

By hfinal Sat May 21, 2005 11:20 am
Really, it helps a lot to get a portable music player (ipod or something) and just listen to new and old beats. jazz, funk, hip-hop, drumnbass, house - whatever. you will learn something new for every new song, and you will be able to tell just how they put it together..
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By Phabeon Sat May 21, 2005 5:26 pm
hfinal wrote:Really, it helps a lot to get a portable music player (ipod or something) and just listen to new and old beats. jazz, funk, hip-hop, drumnbass, house - whatever. you will learn something new for every new song, and you will be able to tell just how they put it together..
thats exactly WHERE i want to be at one day...aka be able to listen to a song n be like ahh so they added drums here, sampled that.. ect. ect. thats pretty dope.. how i get to that level?

also any insight on my stoupe question from up above?


oNe

By dustbunny35 Sat May 21, 2005 6:03 pm
dude you seem to ask alot of questions and want alot of people to share with you but when you had the chance to share wit some cat's in you're area you wouldn't " that's somethin' like a hater man " That's f!@#@! up your'e the same dude who said he Knew a spot that was going out of business and you couldn't afford to shop but you wouldn't share the info :evil: :evil: :evil:
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By Phabeon Sat May 21, 2005 6:17 pm
dustbunny35 wrote:dude you seem to ask alot of questions and want alot of people to share with you but when you had the chance to share wit some cat's in you're area you wouldn't " that's somethin' like a hater man " That's f!@#@! up your'e the same dude who said he Knew a spot that was going out of business and you couldn't afford to shop but you wouldn't share the info :evil: :evil: :evil:
lawrence welk

By dustbunny35 Sat May 21, 2005 6:22 pm
Ben Vereen
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By Science Sun May 22, 2005 5:07 am
i was reading your list bing, and i noticed that you got dr dre listed, not to correct you or nothing, but dre barely samples. but maube you might know something i dont.

By grimaybeats555 Sun May 22, 2005 12:48 pm
I would definitly say the rza and madlib are two of the best as far as finding those unknown (but still hot) instrument loops.
As far as everything else I would say.
Primo
The Beatnuts
Tribe Called Quest
Havoc
DJ Shadow
The Alchemist
Pete Rock
I know I am forgetting somebody......I just can't think of them right now.
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By rookie Mon May 23, 2005 12:48 am
man I don't believe none of you cats gave 45king,hank shockley(PUBLIC ENEMEY) sir jinks(ice cube) MARLEY MAR(evrybody) or track masters any props.
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By Phabeon Mon May 23, 2005 2:31 pm
dustbunny35 wrote:Ben Vereen
touche, accent on the e of course... oNe
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By Phabeon Mon May 23, 2005 2:54 pm
grimaybeats555 wrote:I would definitly say the rza and madlib are two of the best as far as finding those unknown (but still hot) instrument loops.
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would you care to elaborate on that please? an example of that would be? can you name me a song where rza did that and where he got it from?

that jay z beat "the takeover", is that an example of a producer finding a "hot" instrumental loop?


oNe