WHATS THE BIG FUSS ABOUT 2000XL???

BESIDES IT BEING THE TOOL THAT HELPED HIP HOP,
IF THE MPC IS JUST PADS AND AN AUDIO EDITOR WITH EFFECTS---WHATS THE BIG DEAL WITH THE mpc 2000XL?????????????

The reason I ask is because went to Guitar Center this week and asked around at what is a great standalone studio piece that I should purchase.
I've always wanted an MPC because it seemed like all of my favorite producers (Pete Rock, Primo and Kanye) have made great songs with it.

But everyone there only mentioned how great the pads feel versus how great the effects and capanbilites are. THEY SUGGEST THAT I GET AN MV 8000.

THIS IS THE POST THAT WILL MAKE OR BREAK MY PURCHASE DECISION.
I KNOW THAT THE MV 8000 CAN DO GREAT THINGS, BUT I HAVE AN UNLOGICAL DESIRE FOR A 2000XL MDC.

Since I desire to

a) program great drums

b) use a keyboard to play great melodies

c) and do some great and presice audio chopping, editing and layering

BESIDES ALL OF THIS, WHAT MAKES THE MPC SUCH A GREAT PIECE

From a really interested Newbie.
ps: And yes, I have typed in "MPC 2000xl" in this forum search engine as well as read countless threads that always start talking about the MPC 2000xl but then that lead to BIAS ARGUMENTS THAT AMOUNT TO NO INFO--OR- USELESS COMPARISONS TO EQUIPMENT THAT I DONT CARE TO READ ABOUT FOR 4 PAGES.

PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP?????????????????????

MPC 2000XL is a simple to use pad based sampler and very popular.

MV8000 is the new kid on the block. Not so simple to use, but loaded with features the 2000xl does not have. MV8000 is more the competition to the MPC 4000 vs. the 2000xl.

There is a huge difference in price. Whereas the MV8K will set you back an extra 1000.00.

I would start off with the MPC cause it quick to jump into and use the extra 1000 for a keyboard, a protools system, motu system, and recording software. Or invest in a just for music PC and build from there.

Once you sell your first tracks or get more money, then I would invest in a MV8000. But if you have the cash go for the MV8000 or MPC 4000.

Dont be disappointed if once you buy the MV8000 and AKAI unleachess the next generation MPC2K that its better than the MV. Roland is known for crappy instrument support. They usually support a device for a few years and dump it all together. The MPC has been around for about 2 decades...go figure.

FRANKDATRUTH wrote:But everyone there only mentioned how great the pads feel versus how great the effects and capanbilites are. THEY SUGGEST THAT I GET AN MV 8000.

Ask people who have used both, not the guys that will make a commission off your purchase.....

I never thought of using any thing but the mpc, but i've had one for a minute now..... I would try to demo both of them and see which one you like better.

Hey man, I would have to say that the mpc is a great way to go. It's pretty easy to use and you can always hook up extras on it (effects, memory, the mfc) When it's all together, the machine is a pretty serious piece. You can edit the drums with a visual sound wave on the screen. It cuts the time down by far. And, hell yea you can tighten the drums on that thing. That's what it's known for. I know a lot of big time producers who have a 2000xl in their studio for tight drum work. It's also easy to hook up a couple of keyboards and use the mpc as a global controller.

its simple period.. the fags over at GC want you to spend more.. so you can help their commision. aight I returned a mixer there last month and the dood got so upset I was returning it. I was like "WTF u trippin about??" and he's like u realy hurt my commision... man I could give a **** about his commision. 90% of trhe people at GC are snakes. They just out there to make you make stupid decisions and buy the more expensive products to help their own personel well being. Thats why I buy online.

and research your shit online too first. cuz its forums like these that give you REAL input/opinons/and advice. Best of luck. The MV isnt a BAD machine, but i'd reccomend you get an MPC.

It is really depends on what you are looking for, if you don't prefer hardware you can get software that does everything MPC can do plus some. Or if you prefer keys you might want a Triton? I mean there is 500 combinations you can do, I would concider price & what you are most comfortable using. If pads are your thing you WILL NOT be desapointed in mpc 2k! Also there are products with all kinds of features but if you know you will never use a particular feature, who cares!

I personal love pads for drum tracks so I got mpc 2k, 1k is very limited and 4k has a bunch of features I will never use. But I also want to make melodies with keys so I got MicroKorg which has phat synth sounds.

I don`t know.... tell me whats the thing about it..

I would lean toward the MV8000, because you want an all in one piece.

the mpc 2000xl is a great sampler but a basic one.

Reasons you should get the mv8000> better effects, more features, cd burner/sample straight from cd, usb port. Nothing is a stand alone workstation, you need at least a turntable, records or sample cd soundmoudule etc.

or you could get the MPC2KXL add the 8outputs.instead of the akai eb16 effects $349 for 5 effects that suck you could buy the Boss sp 303 that is another sampler of itself plus it has 26 effects, add a tube a compressor and your set. also the mpc has 2 midi in and 2 midi out the mv8 has one midi in one midi out and midi thru.

I would suggest the MPC2000xl. I'm assuming you're just getting started in production, and the MPC will get you going quickly. You may later feel the need for extra equipment which you can then add as you go, based on your exact needs and preferences. If it turns out synth sounds or reverb is important to you, you can then spend your money where it matters, as opposed to being stuck with built-in stuff, which is often mediocre at best.

... then again, if you REALLY want to have everything in one place...

Is an MPC website actually the best place for unbiased advice about the MPC?

if u are serious about music, planning to do it for a while, and depending on your use of Midi, I would go with the MV-8000, when i play wit it and look at the specs, its killin the MPC... even though thats all i use, but ... if u arent sure about what u are going to do or be in the game, do like buddy said up above, sale u a few beats first with the 2000xl and u think u will be producing for a while or seriously, then move up to the MV 8000.... cause u can use more programs/sounds at one time then also the 2000xl, but u make up for that in price difference

FRANKDATRUTH wrote:like all of my favorite producers (Pete Rock, Primo and Kanye) have made great songs with it.

I thought Kanye only uses the Sequenser Part, slaved to his ASR-10 ~ Pete was mainly on the SP and Primo MPC60, and not on the MPC2000XL all the time.

look at the prices.......
Mpc2kxl=?
Mv8k=?

The Mv8k is newer than the mpc2kxl so of course it has more options but like it was stated above.......the mv is the comp for the 4k really in a nut shell. As far as fx are concerned.........I have two words for you......
SOUND FORGE

Cop the mpc2kxl w/ mcd use the extra money on some other gear and call it a day fam

I'm a newbie and I've had my MPC2000 for about 3 weeks and I love it. I would highly suggest the 2000XL.