Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By PerpetualNoob Sun May 29, 2005 7:14 pm
i just bought an sp-12 from this forty years old dude for $150. dude i bought it from was the original owner. he even had the receipt from 1986!!! lol. anyway, it has the flight case, commodore drive, and a shitload of floppies w/ sounds(35+). it looks pristine, i mean totally mint condition.

anyway, i checked out ebay and a couple of other spots and the SP-1200 seems to be worth way more in the second hand market. ideally i'd like to keep the 12, but there is a lot of other shit i need to buy in order to get functional as far as the bedroom studio goes.

what's the deal though? is the 1200 just worth more than the 12?

thanks.

By lo-fi Sun May 29, 2005 8:19 pm
Yes, the 1200 is worth more than the 12 or the 12turbo. But you got a VERY good deal on that 12, especially with it being in mint condition, first owner... You could sell it for a profit, but my choice would be to keep it and run it next to an MPC over midi: gritty 12bit drums from the 12, and longer samples and 16bit quality from the MPC.
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By Something Like That Sun May 29, 2005 8:23 pm
I agree with Lo-Fi...you should just rock it and see what you can do with it...but if you want to sell it..I got 1st dibs and will double what you paid for it and pay shipping.

Holla...

By elmacaco Sun May 29, 2005 11:13 pm
Oh you're so generous SLT ;)

yeah keep it, mess with it, check if it's a turbo, (5 seconds instead of 1.5)

but with all that and in such good condition, just enjoy it at least for a while, then if you get sick of it or don't use it then think about selling it.

Don't be in such a rush to get what you think you need that you dont take the time to enjoy stuff that fate puts in your path.
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By DJAndreas Mon May 30, 2005 7:04 am
$150.OO is dope. Make sure its a Turbo. Now, I could be wrong here, but I think the turbo came about in 1987...and you say that willie nelson has the original reciept in 1986..check it out.

By elmacaco Mon May 30, 2005 6:05 pm
you can always sample some drums into it then sample from the 12 to the 60, then 1.5 seconds doesn't matter.
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By itchyvinyl Mon May 30, 2005 8:14 pm
elmacaco wrote:you can always sample some drums into it then sample from the 12 to the 60, then 1.5 seconds doesn't matter.


Exactly what I was gonna say El.
The main reason the 1200 is worth more is cuz it has 10 seconds (ha ha.)
But if you do what El said, it doesn't matter. I have a SP1200, but that's the only way I use it now (Turntable->SP1200->Back into MPC2KXL.)
Be sure and use the sampling at 45rpm method to maximize sample time.....and it also maximizes the grit.

By elmacaco Mon May 30, 2005 8:34 pm
Yeah Itchy, I used to use my emax that way for a while, just sample a section, loop it in the emax sequencer then sample the bits I want from it into the 60. A little less control than setting the input volume for each sound, but quick and dirty it works dope, and no rewinding the record!

By JaeOne3345 Tue May 31, 2005 1:39 am
itchyvinyl wrote:
elmacaco wrote:you can always sample some drums into it then sample from the 12 to the 60, then 1.5 seconds doesn't matter.


Exactly what I was gonna say El.
The main reason the 1200 is worth more is cuz it has 10 seconds (ha ha.)
But if you do what El said, it doesn't matter. I have a SP1200, but that's the only way I use it now (Turntable->SP1200->Back into MPC2KXL.)
Be sure and use the sampling at 45rpm method to maximize sample time.....and it also maximizes the grit.


true, better yet, do what I do with my sp12 turbo (5 seconds of sampling time). I sample into my pc with my firewire interface, pitch wayy up in soundforge or cooledit, then pitch it back down on the sp. I usually need the "LO" pitch range on the sp because I pitch the sounds up a lot since i deal with 5 seconds.

By elmacaco Tue May 31, 2005 1:45 am
yeah, or set your TT to 78 RPM and the pitch slider all the way up, that changes the sound too, then it doesnt have to touch the computer.