How do i get a sample cleared

jaem wrote:

FIrst off, you should be chopping up your samples enough that they wont be recognizable as the original anyway

loops are dope

and who are you to say what everybody should and shouldnt do?????

1) Loops are dope. I use loops. But I also don't loop sh!t that isn't chopped up and filtered/altered a least a li'l bit. If your loop sounds like the song it was sampled from, enough that it's recognizable as that song, you didn't create anything, you just remixed it.

2) Don't get all defensive, son. I'm not saying what anyone should do as far as what's right and wrong for them. But as far as sample clearance and sh!t like that goes, it's MUCH MUCH more cost effective to chop up the sample and make your own sh!t from it than paying to use someone else's song. If you paid attention to my previous post, then you'd realize that I was trying to drop that link about copyrights, not my two cents on producing. If you wanna loops other people's sh!t, fine. But that's why you gotta pay 'em for it. 'Cause it's thier song, not yours. If you chop it up enough for it to actually be your creation, then you don't gotta pay a dime. You see what I'm saying?

Peace1

regardless of what you meant you said what ppl SHOULD do....... is chop

this would imply is that you SHOULDN'T loop

you just needed to rephrase the way you said it and I think you did a good job of clarifying what you meant in the last post

Here is one article of PUBLIC ENEMY talking about samples and clearing them. the article is called "How Copyright Law Changed Hip Hop:

http://www.stayfreemagazine.org/archive ... enemy.html

Not to sound stupid or pridefull. But to hell with that sampling law. Keep sampling son.

one

co-sign above......you need to be pushing serious units to get sued. If you aint got no $$ money to take aint no serious layer going to take the case cause they usually gettin paid on the back end for civil suits.

yup. No one is going to come after you if your selling 5,000 units. Cats need to see the reality that they arent the next kanye and dont fall into the same legal bracket as him casue they own an mpc or fruity loops. You need to be making some serious paper before you get sued. Why the hell would someone sue you if you living at your moms house?

M.ic P.ro C.rusher wrote:
1) Loops are dope. I use loops. But I also don't loop sh!t that isn't chopped up and filtered/altered a least a li'l bit. If your loop sounds like the song it was sampled from, enough that it's recognizable as that song, you didn't create anything, you just remixed it.

2) Don't get all defensive, son. I'm not saying what anyone should do as far as what's right and wrong for them. But as far as sample clearance and sh!t like that goes, it's MUCH MUCH more cost effective to chop up the sample and make your own sh!t from it than paying to use someone else's song. If you paid attention to my previous post, then you'd realize that I was trying to drop that link about copyrights, not my two cents on producing. If you wanna loops other people's sh!t, fine. But that's why you gotta pay 'em for it. 'Cause it's thier song, not yours. If you chop it up enough for it to actually be your creation, then you don't gotta pay a dime. You see what I'm saying?

Peace1

Regardless if you chop it or loop it, you still have to clear the sample. even if you chop till your heart's content. there are people who work at these publishing firms and sample clearance firms that just listen to music to see what's been done.

in the long run i think if u can make music that is dope from scratch off a keyboard drums guitar whatever midi steps , that in the long run will prevail and it will all be u . i been making tracks without samples , i just make my own samples on the boards. its surprising but eventually u can get some types off sound. i got a few its just fun to make beats like that. but i will never knock sampling it is why i play with boards i will alwys sample thats where i came from

Sample music that has long been forgotten...then chop it up beyond all recognition, add some effects and EQ. Then use it how ever you want. Beware of music that has been re-released. If you find an old album that looks like nobody would ever listen to it, first read what lable it was released by and find out if it was re-released. If it was, the lable is probably like Sony or something, stay away from it. There are plenty of samples you can find and tweak, without spending a dime, just be creative.

sparq wrote:Regardless if you chop it or loop it, you still have to clear the sample. even if you chop till your heart's content. there are people who work at these publishing firms and sample clearance firms that just listen to music to see what's been done.

If you chop up a sample and EQ it or pitch/timestretch it, it's REALLY tough for a publisher to PROVE you took it from his song. If I chop a riff down to 1 or 2 note increments, and then re-arrange them, you can't sue me. You can't prove that I took that particular E flat from your album. Coulda been one of a hundred bassists playing those notes, especially since a lot of instruments follow certain patterns (scales etc) all the time, so good luck proving in court that it's you playing that scale. It's only when the tune is recognizable as being a certain song that you need to worry. And if you're doing a parody of that song, you don't even need to worry about that.