Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By eagle_eye Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:37 pm
Does Anyone Know Any Programs That Allow Me To Phase Reverse A Sample........
I Have Bias Peak But I Cant Seem To Find This Option On It.....
Greatful For Any Help

By Beat God Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:41 pm
i am sure peak can do it. do a search in help.
as far as other programs cubase does it

By The Beat Conductor Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:08 pm
In SoundForge, you can reverse the sample then apply a phase effect if that's what your talking about...
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By eagle_eye Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:42 pm
no im talking about phase reversing not reversing and then using a phaser.........
i think its the invert function in bias peak but it still isnt working, im tryin to phase reverse one side of the audio and combining the stereo into mono to cancel out vocals....

By ddot_SFV Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:45 pm
bias will do this with no problem. you're talking about fliping the polarity right, not just reversing.
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By featherboy Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:29 pm
Yes ..... it should be called something like "invert" in Peak to avoid confusion with reversing. With AudioFinder on my Mac it is called "Invert Phase".

I don't think what you are trying to do (cancel out vocals) will work though.
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By eagle_eye Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:03 pm
y not?
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By featherboy Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:11 pm
I just think if it did work it would be a well known technique. There have been a few other threads here about trying to remove vocals from a track & no-one seems to have managed successfully.

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By hecto Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:00 pm
this is an old technique, i havent tried it myself, im pretty sure it'll work.

this is from the-breaks, posted by leroy:

"i'm sure that happened to you before: you found a very nice break, but there are vocals or something else on it and you can't use it. now if you are lucky, the drums are mixed louder on one (left or right) channel, which is often the case in the early seventies and the voice or whatever is on both channels. what you do now is to split the sample into left and right and make two mono channels out of it. the pan must be in the middle and volume settings must be the same on both channels. now take the channel with the less drums and invert the phase of the channel (you can do this with almost every audio software). if you play now both channels, the voice disappears. all is left, is the hall of it (because it "was" stereo). ATTENTION: the more drums you have on the inverted channel, the more it will take bad effect to the result. if there's any latency on one channel the effect will not work!

i prepared a little example with a famous new birth break:

snippet 1: left channel of the sample, panned in the middle
snippet 2: right channel of the sample, panned in the middle, phase inverted
snippet 3: both channels played at same time

http://rapidshare.de/files/2224108/GGANex.mp3.html

try it yourself...
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By eagle_eye Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:00 pm
Yer I Saw In A Dub J Video He Played The Sample And Then Played The Untreated Version And The Untreated Version Had Vocals In It Which He Seemingly Completly Removed From It, He Didnt Give Much Away He Jus Sed He Took The Left Channel And The Right Channel Of The Audio (And Did What I Dont Know) And He Said He Eqd It A Little....

By hecto Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:08 pm
eagle_eye wrote:Yer I Saw In A Dub J Video He Played The Sample And Then Played The Untreated Version And The Untreated Version Had Vocals In It Which He Seemingly Completly Removed From It, He Didnt Give Much Away He Jus Sed He Took The Left Channel And The Right Channel Of The Audio (And Did What I Dont Know) And He Said He Eqd It A Little....


yeah, take a look at the leroys thing i posted, that's exactly it.

By ddot_SFV Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:39 pm
snippet 1: left channel of the sample, panned in the middle
snippet 2: right channel of the sample, panned in the middle, phase inverted
snippet 3: both channels played at same time

I've tried this, it works for removing anything panned dead center (which, the vocal usually is). You'll still hear artifacts like delay and reverb which are usually stereo.