Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
By spectre Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:09 am
Ok, I haven't gone digging in a while. Except for the Salvation Army by my house here and there. That's because I've been using mostly DVD samples only for this thing I'm working on. But I want to really concentrate all the free time I will have this summer on working on my digging spider sense.


Anyway I suck at digging. I know I should look at players, producers, year, and stuff like that. But how do you know when to look at a certain record's credits? I know everyone here doesn't look at every **** record they come into contact with. Just a feeling you get? Chance? Apealing cover?

That's probably it but I thought I see what everyone does.
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By Cheech Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:32 am
if i am not familiar with the artist i just look at the front and back cover and just try to get a general feel of the record. hit and miss!

but if i'm at the 20 cent bin i just take anytihng that even remotely looks like it could have some sounds on it.
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By dj dcypher Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:43 pm
a lot of records have detailed descriptions of the artists and their music on the back covers, inside the gate fold, and on the record sleeves. Read through this stuff and you can learn a lot more about the record.

I mainly stick to the $1 & $2 bins, so if you get a really bad record your only out a little bit.

And you're really having problems, get a portable turntable and take it with you.
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By jaem Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:37 pm
my first signal is the label the album was released on....

my order of digging:
look for....

1- label
2 - artist
3- producer on specific tracks (found this nancy wilson produced by Stevie, FIRE!!!)
4- session players
5- year
6- engineer

By I.Q. Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:49 pm
Colors
I look for covers that have real abstract colors on it. If I see a white record next to a yellow and purple record, I'm going to look at the purple and yellow record first. It's also just a feeling you get after you've ben sampling for a while. Also look at the expression of the artists face on the cover.
After I find an interesting cover I check the back.
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By FLUENT Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:57 pm
my first signal is the label the album was released on....

my order of digging:
look for....

1- label
2 - artist
3- producer on specific tracks (found this nancy wilson produced by Stevie, FIRE!!!)
4- session players
5- year
6- engineer


thats the same order i go by. the top 2 are interchangable depending on what i spot. of course this means one actually has to know this sh1t, and actually LEARN about the music theyre buying. its not that hard, get yourself some knowledge about artists from all forms of music, even if your just browsing the net - read the artists names and album titles and take mental notes. read about records and shit. eventually your brain will turn into an all music database. and once it does, you can expand and start spotting those rare rekkids

By drumtrack Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:08 pm
Many records have the names from the musicians:
keys: john X
bass: Sam Y
percussion: michael J
etc etc
When there is no vocalist, Ill buy it, no doubt
When the cover looks cool, Ill buy it
When there is a sax or trumpet on the cover, Ill buy it
When funk or jazz or soul is written on the cover somewhere, ill buy it
dont buy 80ies or 90ies pop
Ill buy everything that is made before the 70ies
Cop every jazz record... there are plenty of them!
Dont go to shops that are famous because of diggers, they charge too much. Instead go to flea markets. If you find a store, dont share it ;)
Diggin is also a matter of luck
You need to have patience and lots of spare time
Take lots of cash when you go diggin so you can buy everything you think is good. Dont be miserly. Spend!

Dont think too much... When it looks cool, buy it!

You can do some research on the net for artists and write them down on a piece of paper wich goes into your wallet, or remember them..

Buy a portable turntable wich runs on batteries: Fisherprice, Vestax, etc..
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By erkl Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:02 pm
u learn by listening, when something hits you that you like your going to look who did it, ive found bass players, drummers, producers whatever this way, and then you see them pop up on other records you like.. its interesting, or you might find some of there solo work later

just keep at it whenever u get a chance!

By simcity Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:16 pm
I.Q. wrote:Colors
I look for covers that have real abstract colors on it. Also look at the expression of the artists face on the cover.


REAL TALK
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By mpc4000xl Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:47 pm
spectre wrote:Ok, I haven't gone digging in a while. Except for the Salvation Army by my house here and there. That's because I've been using mostly DVD samples only for this thing I'm working on. But I want to really concentrate all the free time I will have this summer on working on my digging spider sense.


Anyway I suck at digging. I know I should look at players, producers, year, and stuff like that. But how do you know when to look at a certain record's credits? I know everyone here doesn't look at every **** record they come into contact with. Just a feeling you get? Chance? Apealing cover?

That's probably it but I thought I see what everyone does.



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By Daath7 Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:35 am
If they don't cost much I just take a chance, most of that ish is instinct and luck. But to be real u can make somthin off just about everything. If u can't find a whole beat or melody listen for a sound or phrase then try it.
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By theStudent Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:42 pm
Don't underestimate the 'sense' or 'force' that cats are talking about. I by no means consider myself a serious digger yet, (I don't know much about years, musicians, labels, etc. either) but my success rate for joints picked up 'on a hunch' has been really great.

Just yesterday I had to pat myself on the back when every joint I brought to the listening station had the vibe I expected it to.

Oh and as a tip from a fellow novice digger, I'd say the easiest bit of info to pick up on first is the label. Check the labels of the joints you already have and really like and just search for that logo when you're out. Then go from there.

By jpeg Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:20 pm
1st thing I check is if the LP has a shiny laminate finish if it does i throw it back in the crate.

other things i check:

cover art
album title
year (different genre's have different years)
genre music (country+blues r mostly wack)
artist
producer
instruments
check the lable on the vinyl itself (certain things tell if its wack or not)
price (rarely pay more than £10 a record)
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By mpc4000xl Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:43 pm
There is The Benefit of Dollar Jointz..........................



Ur Only Riskin' A Dollar and IF U Cop Like 5 then it will EVEN OUT!!!!!!!


Jus' Get Them IN The Very Best Condition U Can!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By jaem Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:26 pm
jpeg....

blues is wack?????

r u serious