mpc3000

i love my 2kxl. but im thinkin about sellin it and gettin the 3000. is this a good idea? what is the best place to get one? what do u guys think?

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anybody

i'm no expert or anything, but i honestly wouldn't if i were you

i have a 3000 and (from my view as a newbie) it might've been a better idea to get the 2000 xl (for the wider user-support base, more modern functions like wav support, etc)

then again, if you've been doing this for a while, why not (if you really want a more vintage machine, the sound, etc)....but if i were you, i'd just buy more gear rather than go back in time

i'm sure some people on this forum would disagree with me though!

-natural selection

I've had a 3000 for about 5 years. I love it, and today, I'm sending out to get serviced. It's old and needs some repair to make it work like new. All of that aside, I would probably have taken a 2000XL if I could. Size and weigh was an issue for me when I first bought it. I used to teach and do projects in schools and prisons. That weight was a killer and finding the appropriate case was a b#tch. I also work in tandem with my computer, so the ability to read WAV formats would be dope. The internal Zip would also be useful. Visually being able to edit samples would make things move quicker too.

So, I would keep the 2000XL if those are important isues for you. Otherwise, it's all good.

Peace.

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thanx guys. what other equipment would i need in order for it to have the vintage sound the 3000 has. would a s950 do the job cuz they have the same motor as the 3000 right? i love my 2000 and the fact that it is easy to use with my computer. it is just that when i make beats they sound too clean and i like that grimy sound. any advice on what i should get would be helpful. thanx again. peace

You'll find that it is just about 50/50 between people who love vintage MPCs vs. Newer MPCs. I personally would keep my 2000 if I were you because that is what you are used to operating. Like it was mentioned above you can make your stuff sound "grimey" by adding distortion or using certain effects on your computer. Do you have SoundForge or anything like that. There are also plenty of analog processors that will give you the effect you need. The 3000 is similar, but not the same so you would have to learn some things again, also you would lose the .wav transfer ability. That is not really a big deal because I recently found out that if you buy MPC Editor for $29 you can not only transfer between your CPU and MPC, but you can set up the program so once you load the sounds you are set. That software works on MPC60 w/ 3.10 upgrades, MPC3000, MPC2000, and MPC2000XL. The 3000 is a more solid machine not to mention it is endorsed by Roger Linn, but they are way more expensive too. They go for around $2000.00 whereas you can get a 2000/2000XL for under a grand (w/out extras of course). See, I like that clean sound so after I make my beat on my 12 bit MPC60 I run the wave through Sound Forge to make it 16 bit and compress the whole track. You could do the opposite to grimey yours up a little I guess.
Well good luck on your Qwest for grimey beats

I would try to keep the 2000 and cop a vintage MPC as well, maybe a 60 for drums/sequencing and a s3000XL for the dope filters. that setup right there will murder a 2000XL in the right hands.

I dont get why people need all this computer access, just cop a Audiophile for your comp and sample the signal directly to the MPC. It sounds better than disk transfers, **** mpc editor, that shit is gay, take advantage of the samplers dope A/Ds. Just build a library of disks once the sounds are in there and swap them disks. im putting together some dope disks im gonna slang on eBay (EQed and compressed on Soundforge, sampled DIRECTLY on the MPC60), they will blow the 2000XL drums out the water.

DOVESKI wrote:I would try to keep the 2000 and cop a vintage MPC as well, maybe a 60 for drums/sequencing and a s3000XL for the dope filters. that setup right there will murder a 2000XL in the right hands.

I dont get why people need all this computer access, just cop a Audiophile for your comp and sample the signal directly to the MPC. It sounds better than disk transfers, **** mpc editor, that **** is gay, take advantage of the samplers dope A/Ds. Just build a library of disks once the sounds are in there and swap them disks. im putting together some dope disks im gonna slang on eBay (EQed and compressed on Soundforge, sampled DIRECTLY on the MPC60), they will blow the 2000XL drums out the water.

Nothing is wrong or "gay" about people wanting to use a computer. U just stated that u use "sound forge" does that make you gay also? Yeah, people should try out the AD/DA and all other possiblilites just to see what they like. Don't get me wrong homie I'm not hatin on you, I try not to do that but obvisouly have a closed mind as far as options go. Open up man and explore. You prolly already got sound forge on your PC so you are into the computer thing am I wrong? Even if you ONLY do sound forge your still in it. And speaking on disk transfers, it ensure that NO noise or anything else doesn't cloud the actuall sound, why, cause it never goes through any cable, remains DIGITAL, sounds can be processed just as fat via sound forge and then xferred and sound good. open up man and holla back.

wassup lampie, maybe gay was the wrong word, a little on the harsh side huh? but i dont like using an mpc editor to set up my programs (i tried the demo, aint no fun). and i think the the whole integrated comp with mpc thing is way overated. (i had a Z4 for a minute, thin.....bleh). i even contemplated **** with the 1000, but i dont think i will after digging deeper into my machines.

on the sampling, i got gold plated monster cables running from my audiophile to a dbx160 to my MPC60, trust the dove, these drums KILL disk transfer disk drums, the analog hum in there gives my sounds the edge. there is a definite difference between my work and 2000XL work (all my boys got 2000s, so do i but strictly for collab work). My shit stands out. Im a tailor, i take my time, everything gotta be perfect, i dont throw a million sounds into a sequence before finding one i like.

Aint nothing wrong with the comp, but id rather spend more time in front of my gear than in front of a screen. by the way im way more open than the locals i hang with (super anti comp gear purists), i mean i come to message boards, theyd laugh at me for this shit. i wasnt trying to down anyone for anything, just shedding light on how i work. peace mang.

how can i fatten stuff up on soundforge

EQ and Compression.

thanx man

I use a AMEK BC2 desk which is amazing then for the drumz a brought the alan smart C1 Which Fu--s anything you put through it!!!!!

Eqing samples i picked up a SSL Strip which is so fat it's gonna blow your speakers!!!!!!

I Think Pc editing is naff for eq/comp/ Try using real shi!!!!t

If your cash flow is low try using a 160x dbx or if your real tight then a drawmer 241. Even these will destroy any plug in.

On eq try gettin something like API/SSL/NEVE/TLA (Only highend models)

Try lookin 4 the crimson range for EQ/COMP (There very cheep now)

The better your equipment the easier it is to mix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mac

where did u get that deal for the 3000 macman.