Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By butcher Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:30 pm
i finally got all my shi1t setup... now i have my mixer outs going into the rme multiface... should i just run my shit straight to the multiface without puttin it through my behringer mixer first or should i keep it how it is and route my outs to my mixr and then from my mixer to my multiface...i am asking because i dont know if i heard it hear... bt i heard behringer is not a good idea for recording...
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By punkdISCO Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:12 pm
Its totally subjective. Best bet is to record the same piece twice, once bypassing the mixer. Then listen to the 2 versions, play them on a few difference systems and to some mates.

"i am asking because i dont know if i heard it hear... bt i heard behringer is not a good idea for recording..."

Question everything.. Ask yourself where you heard this and what is the value of their opinion. You will be very hard pushed to find a bad review of a Behringer mixer from Pro's yet you will often read negative comments from forum members.

Take a search in www.sospubs.co.uk for behringer reviews as this is the most definitive technical magazine in the world. Put in your model and see what they say..

Good luck dude..
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By jaem Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:42 pm
subjective blah blah blah.....

the truth is behringer mixers have a loud noise floor.....

my suggestion go direct to the interface and use a controller....

that way you minimize cable runs and get a clenaer signal
By 4dahaterz Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:16 pm
IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW YOU LIKE IT... CHOOSE FOR YOURSELF
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By butcher Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:18 pm
thanx alot guys... damn,, i was thinkin about just running it straight to there but i guess i that means i dont need a behringer ub2442 anymore... anybody got any suggestions for a decent mixer about 12 channels for around 300?? because i guess there is really no need to have such a big mixer anymore..

By ntalec Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:59 pm
You can keep the B and use it while you are just messing around or trying out ideas.
The thing would be not to track through it.
Another $300 mixer wouldn't necessarily be a big improvement over the B.

By elmacaco Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:24 pm
yeah butcher, keep the mixer, track through it and see how it compared with the same thing recorded without it. Personally, I'll take any analog EQ and routing over none.

By ntalec Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:19 pm
El,
the problem is exactly what jaem is warning him of, noise.
He may think it sounds better but lets say there is a little added noiseor a peak around 200-250hz**, multiple that by a couple of tracks and now you are trying to fix it in the mix.
This is the type of smear I usually hate to deal with when someone comes with something they tracked elsewhere.
It will make getting typical Hip Hop vocal hard to sit in a mix.

Thing to remember is if you got rid of the mixer you would still need some way to effectively route and monitor your gear.
Don't cripple youself while trying to improve.
Just stack some chips and keep your eyes open upgrade when the time is right.

** I used that particular freq range since it makes strings,horns,upper toms, many snares and electric guitars sound full.
Which means it's a freq that tends to stand out with some peoples mixes.
Unfortunately it's also a freq range that makes vocals sound boomy or muddy.

By elmacaco Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:40 pm
(loading that tidbit into memory banks........... done!)

He should probably try both methods and become proficient at each, but individual outs straight into a soundcard never did it for me. I'm gonna keep an eye out for that smear though.

By ntalec Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:33 pm
elmacaco wrote:(loading that tidbit into memory banks........... done!)

He should probably try both methods and become proficient at each, but individual outs straight into a soundcard never did it for me. I'm gonna keep an eye out for that smear though.


That's why I track through the Avalons, GR and Summit because the straight path means you will probably won't like what you hear.

El,
that's why a lot of guys work so hard at creating EQ holes when dealing with heavily layer tracks.