Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
User avatar

By dj e.d.e Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:52 am
dope site to bad they dont have amy acid tracks.
but i'm going to check it out looks cool.
good lookin out issues
i didnt kno you spun house.
peace
User avatar

By issues Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:17 pm
dj e.d.e wrote:dope site to bad they dont have amy acid tracks.
but i'm going to check it out looks cool.
good lookin out issues
i didnt kno you spun house.
peace


oh mos definitely

i love house, man. i got tons of stuff over here. im gettin my foot in tha door as a house dj (easy as hell to mix)...then i'll step up to hip-hop (tha real ish)
User avatar

By dj e.d.e Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:01 pm
try it the other way around , it sharpens your skillz, yeah people say it's easy to spin house but thats the key you need to kno how to do it right ,you need to use your mixer and it's features the EQ and sht.


i've been spining house since the 90's and i've seen many cats start off playin house but truly they should have even started,

not sayin that's you ,but if you start with hiphop you can learn better transtitons and your moods change in house music , you take people on a musical journey.
being from chi i'm sure you understand that tho, you guys got some dope ass house dj's there.

cool not to many house headz on this forum, thats cool tho cause i've fallen back to my root which was hiphop first,
i'm yet to get my sound for producing house, still searching for it
peace
e.d.e

By GrantB Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:18 am
Ok going off topic but I gotta say this thing

Tha real ish, as far as djing is concerned is mixing records with live drums (not sequenced). It has nothing to do with hiphop or house. All the things you will learn from mixing hiphop or house will apply, but the beginning and the end of mixing skills is blending live drummers. Working two turntables with _real_ records is the root of both styles, and still the ultimate technical dj skill whether or not you choose to incorporate scratching or eq/fx in your set. There you enter a world outside labels, where good music is just good music, and any of it is game. As a bonus, if you can do this, sequenced music is cake.

Also to clarify one thing: that is the ultimate _technical_ skill. However, the ultimate dj ability above all is and always will be programming your set live on the fly AKA rocking the party AKA beating that isht. All other factors being equal, the only thing that really matters is playing the right record at the right time. House, hiphop, or otherwise.

PS I aint preachin at you guys, I just have to say my thing

disco

By Roundy Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:30 am
I get what your saying there grant b, I spin house and like to try and be a turntabalist, I can scratch and beat juggle fairly well. I started by mixing rave records and scratching to hip hop.

When you say the ultimate skill is to mix records produced live by bands I'd say it's good to be able to do that but it is not always practical and does not always make for pleasurable listening. Some tracks waver so much in regards to tempo that mixing records in this way does not always make for good listening. Can you name anybody who mixes like this? As a house dj predominantly I use all kinds of records to spice up the mix especially alot of 80's stuff, this is almost on par with what your saying because the tempos waver alot and they are edited so they are never spot on timing like a metronome house beat. This is quite difficult and you have to be one step ahead of the beat to compensate for tempo changes but you can make it work.
User avatar

By dubmunkey Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:56 am
too many dj's (soulwax) mix like this- can work very well but can also sound shite as keys have to be matched as well as tempos/grooves.....

greg

By Roundy Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:18 am
Hear lots about soulwax never heard their stuff though. It's the kind of thing that could really do with being programmed into a set, on the fly mixing could be hit and miss all depending on the day!
User avatar

By dj e.d.e Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:14 pm
bpm your records and you dont have to worry about that ,

i mix like this, i put all kinds of music together in my sets hiphop, frestyle,soul,classic rock, and it dont sound wack and my keys just add as a change up or change down thats what gets people moving when they feel the music control them, thats the purpose of the dj to control the dance floor.

i think the main thing is to open yourseldf to different genre's of music,

i've been spinin for 25+ yrs and i have never had a problem with my concept of mixin, you just need to find a good concept and stick to it .
i've done far too many party's to count and remeber. but i always get called back,

i've slowed down in the last few yrs do to medical problems but ,i will get back into it soon.
peace

By GrantB Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:33 pm
"name a DJ who mixes like this"

Frankie Knuckles
Larry Levan
Ron Hardy
Tee Scott
every legendary disco dj and those who follow in their footsteps
listen to some of the hundreds of disco mixes on www.deephousepage.com some are cleaner than others in the mixing department (even from the legends) but you will hear that some djs are able to do this flawlessly. Either way, it's a lot more interesting and compelling than listening to perfectly matched metronome music all night. The guys I mentioned above have a active following that goes back to the 70s, even though 3/4 of them are dead, and despite the fact that not every mix was pristine. They beat the muthafuggin box with hot music, real music, and that's what matters.

"can sound ****" "matching keys and grooves"
"mixing on the fly can be hit or miss"

Well that's the difference between doing it poorly and doing it well. Knowing your records makes all the difference. I do it all on the fly because anything else is bogus outside maybe knowing two records that blend well together. Preprogrammed sets are not djing, a monkey could do that (no offense dub haha). You have to read the vibe on every selection or you are not rocking the party. You have to know where is the appropriate place to mix a record, rather than the common house dj approach of matching the bars/beats and smoothly fading by the numbers. You also have to be able to ride the pitch control in such a way that you can keep things matched without sounding warbly. Not easy!

"bpm your records"
Bingo. This is part of knowing your records. 25+ years. Why do only old school cats know this? The kids only mix one tempo range of machine music or don't mix at all, only cut.
User avatar

By JUKE 179r Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:29 pm
dj e.d.e wrote:not to many house headz on this forum


Count me in. I've been collecting house music since '84 and djing since '87. Even back to the times of when I was break dancing and grafittiing (is that a word???) to Hip Hop. Around my parts I'm mostly known for spinning Hip Hop sets but I truly dig on House music and Deep House (Disco).

BTW thanks for the website issues!!

1....