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By heinzomat Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:51 pm
hi guys,

maybe this has been asked before, but i searched for it and couldn´t find an answer.
i just bought a mpc 1k and now i want to take all my pgm and snd files from my old mpc2k to the 1k. i loaded all data from zipdisk to my pc and from there to my mpc. the problem: the 1k recognizes the folder but it doesn´t load any further data. when i insert the compact flash card to my pc the files are shown but my mpc1k can´t handle with it. is there a special software for that?
thanks
heinz

By tiger vomitt Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:26 am
the 1k wont read much of the 2k's data

wav's are ok, if you export your sequences as SMF's the 1k will read those. not programs, so recreate the pgms like this:

convert the snd files to wav's (either in the XL or with an app on your computer, just google it there are a bunch of apps that do this)

use MPCPgmMaker to open up the PGM files. open up PAD187 also and recreate the PGM's.

if youre on pc just use the PC apps instead

export all the stuff to the CF card

By mpc3000 Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:22 pm
If you already have folders of pgm's and snd's, just use sndwav (or is it wavsnd? I wrote it, I should remember.) and convert all the snd files to wav files. Move the snd files out of the directory. They are now effectively XL sound sets which the 1k are supposed to load.
By heinzomat Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:47 pm
that sound like much, much work for a thing that shouldn´t be a problem. i guess i´m not such a rare case having a 2k switching to a 1k.
a question: a friend of mine has a 2k xl. if load all my .pgm and .all data there, then save it on zipdisk and then load it to my mpc and then move it to the comp flash card should it work then?
on the akaipro site i read that there is compatibility betwenn 2k and 1k except in a few things. so that´s how it works or what?

By tiger vomitt Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:59 pm
the 1k CANNOT READ 2000 or 2000XL PROGRAMS

read up on it, the info is all over the internet

the only compatibility is in the things i listed in my last post. why post a question and then not read the answer?

By mpc3000 Sun Jun 26, 2005 7:01 pm
"the 1k CANNOT READ 2000 or 2000XL PROGRAMS
read up on it, the info is all over the internet "

Not according to the manual and the compatibility charts posted "all over the internet".

"why post a question and then not read the answer?

Maybe because you are wrong?

By tiger vomitt Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:46 pm
yes! ok i stand corrected.

the 1k will import XL pgm's, but ONLY the pad assignments. so basically, you still gotta do what i was talking about to really transfer pgm's anyway. cuz youre not gonna get levels, filters, ouput assignments, or any other of that stuff unless you do it manually.

and, yeah, that info is all over the place. ;)

By heinzomat Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:10 am
i read all the stuff in the manual and around the internet thoroughly. but i never read that there was no compatibility of pgm between 2k and 1k at all. i always read that the 1k reads at least the assignement data of the 2k, but that´s not the case. i tried what you told me: converting snd to wav then feed again my 1k. part of the data is nevertheless not recognized. the pgm-assignement is working only a 75 percent. the thing i´m angry about is that neither in the manual nor at the akai-sites they tell you about the incompatibilty. so i think i´ll get rid of the 1k and turn back to a second hand 2k xl.
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By Penfold Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:52 am
boy u must be doing suttin wrong cuz i have no problems loading my PGM's from my 2000XL to my 1000.

here let me help you.

go back to your 2000 or XL, and resave as PGM with WAVS (NOT SND) then load up on ya 1000, uf want to do this all in ya pc (thats if us dont have access to a XL etc, ) then not that if u need ya all files sorted then ur **** than that MIDI and PGM only, so...

Get a program called AWAVE or WAV2SND, I prefer AWAVE, to convert all my SND to WAV then i get BLUEBOX and reassign the sounds for 1000 use.

not though if u buy AWAVE 9.3 it can do straight 2000 (XL) to 1000 pgm and snds to what ever format u need, serious from 1000 to even Kontakt, reason, what ever formatu need it in.

have a nice day.

By tiger vomitt Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:04 pm
that's cool that AWAVE can xfer 2k pgm's to 1k pgm's

heinzomat, the 1k is supposed to be reading 100% of the pad assignments from the 2000/XL pgm's. if it's not, just go back and double check everything, make sure youre not leaving out a step somewhere?

By heinzomat Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:58 am
hi guys,
thanks for your helpful answers.
i tried to save snd as wav on a friend´s 2kxl and as i said it worked only a 75 percent. the thing is that for some reason in my 2k pgms there are e.g. three files with the same name but with a different size. when i copy the wavs from zipdisk to compact flash via mpc (using total commad, which is much better then ms explorer) the pc has a serious problem with those double or even triple files. but that´s not a mpc problem any more but one of the pc i guess.
i tried a lot e.g. discarding older files and using only the recent one and stuff like that but the result is not 1oo percent. so, gouys, i´m afraid i should have bought a 2k xl in the past then it would work better now and wouldn´t naver have felt like buying a 1k.
regards
heinz

By mpc3000 Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:33 pm
". three files with the same name but with a different size."

The problem is in your file naming procedure. If you ever, ever anticipate moving from the "exclusive" MPC2k environment to other systems then you can never use more than 8 characters for filenames.

So if you want to move across DOS systems then you have to follow restrictive DOS naming conventions.
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By Penfold Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:47 pm
mpc3000 wrote:". three files with the same name but with a different size."

The problem is in your file naming procedure. If you ever, ever anticipate moving from the "exclusive" MPC2k environment to other systems then you can never use more than 8 characters for filenames.

So if you want to move across DOS systems then you have to follow restrictive DOS naming conventions.



CORRECT!!!!