ASR-10 vs. V-Synth

I noticed Just Blaze went from an ASR-10 to a V-synth, but he has a shytload of other gear...

Which do you think is better?

Not thinking of any of the synth capabilites, just ease of use,effects (DP4 vs. COSM) , and sound quality.

go to guitar center or sam ash and use one yourself. u will realize no one synth will give u everything.

F**K Just Blaze. Nah just playin. I have the Asr and I love it so far ( still haven't figured it all out yet).

Can't compare these, ones a sampler and ones a synth. You could mess with the effects but otherwise no comparison.

thats not true, vsynth has a lot of sampling capabilities. its got variphrase on it too.

theyre from two differnet eras though...feature-wise the vsynth has a lot more, but the asr10s sound is classic.

man the ASR is way better then a v-synth. and the kool part is if you have a ASR, sample the v-synth sounds you want and call it a day. but you betta make sure you have enough RAM 1st and proably a zip drive

the v-synth's strong point is sample manipulation check rolandusa.com and go to a music store like beat god said

I dont think some people that rely on sampling realize the potential of a synth. If you just sample a synth, you have a static sample of just one note of one patch the synth can do. You lose all tweakability of a good hundred or more settings. I can understand if you just need one sound or want to sample a simple sound module. But anyone buying sample CDs of synths is really missing the boat.

Saying the ASR is better than the V-synth makes absolutely no sense. Saying you perfer the sound of its sampling engine might, but feature wise the ASR is a dinosour compared to a v-synth. I'm not sure why you would sample a sampler. You miss out on the synthesis capabilities, veriphrase (which means real time stretching without pitching), fx, time trip pad, and all the technology improvements in sampling over the years.

They both serve their purpose, I'm sure he still has both pieces of gear, but since he's got the cash to blow, he's going to be trying out all the new gear that can do what the old gear cannot. Just like lots of people picked up the mpc1000 and 4000 for its memory capabilities and computer integration, but still use a 60 or 3000 as well.

^^ exactly. this post is a perfect example of the rampant ignorance on this forum. most of the time it's like standing on a street corner with a bunch of heads drinking 40s talking a bunch of gibberish with every once in a while someone walking past that can set things straight...

disappointing. do your homework.

swiphwaize wrote:man the ASR is way better then a v-synth. and the kool part is if you have a ASR, sample the v-synth sounds you want and call it a day. but you betta make sure you have enough RAM 1st and proably a zip drive

Can tell you have never used a V-Synth.
The V-Synth is very manipulative as a synth or as a sampler, just look at how you can flip the Time Trip Pad.
The VP9000 was some crazy sh*t and the V-Synth takes the technology and give it a real purpose.
It's a deep machine but is still quick to use if you understand it.

exactly, the vsynth is slept on, just like the vp9000 and varios were. but hey, why should we be letting people know this? if its slept on, thats good for us! their ignorance is our bliss...

lank wrote:^^ exactly. this post is a perfect example of the rampant ignorance on this forum. most of the time it's like standing on a street corner with a bunch of heads drinking 40s talking a bunch of gibberish with every once in a while someone walking past that can set things straight...

disappointing. do your homework.

Mehn, thank you for being the one to say it. Cats around here tend to think that because a piece of gear has legendary status makes it supreme to any piece of new gear that may come about.

You could have a piece of gear that could materialize a sample that you have playing in your head (including orchestration and all, maybe even put a drum loop under it) and some cat would still say that it can't hold up to the MPC 60 or the SP 1200.

McSmooth wrote:I dont think some people that rely on sampling realize the potential of a synth. If you just sample a synth, you have a static sample of just one note of one patch the synth can do. You lose all tweakability of a good hundred or more settings. I can understand if you just need one sound or want to sample a simple sound module. But anyone buying sample CDs of synths is really missing the boat.

Huh?I wasn't thinking of buying either units to buy sample CD's of popular synths, I was thinking of buying it for a sampler for drums, and to chop/mangle loops, (hip-hop style).

from what i've heard so far, the V-Synth is probably the best sample mangler ever created. obviously a different machine than an ASR, but they were made with different things in mind.

MPC + V-Synth = a damn fine combination.

ASR's have followings like the mpc60, people love the sound of the sampler. The question of comparing the two keyboards sais something since the ASR is how old ? Features however, why bother compairing ?