Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By Lord Toranaga Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:46 pm
Philly Stress wrote:
drumat!c wrote:..... One more thing,i t's way to much Disrespect going on at this board. Now people are threating bodily harm. I joined this site to gain info and tips on the use of my MPC. I'll be the First to Apologizes to ANYONE I OFFENDED!! I never ment to Disrepect anyone Purposely. I just want to continue to learn as much as possible about using the MPC as a Production Tool and record-ing in General.I've Targeted by a few posters but, I'm not going call any-one out of there name or RESPOND TO DISRESPECTFUL POST[b] I hope Moderators CHECK some of this disrepect going on this Forum!

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this what I was reffering to.
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By Lo Pass Filter Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:03 pm
I gave my opinion about your music, and this battle, and you had to respark the onslaught. I didn't come back out against you and dedicate a whole diss for you, I simply said I heard your music, wasn't feeling it, and shared my thought that my man is going to stomp your battle beat out. Thats all.

My flipping scripts comment comes from you saying you been doing it since 91. If you been doing it that long, I'd expect you'd know right from wrong. My thought was that you chose wrong for the sake of doe. Rather you play both sides of the fence or not is not important to me, plus.. I can't gauge you against that possibility cause' all you've shown me is some anti-white, anti-golden era, pro dollar mentailty.

Like I already said 900 times on this forum, and in this thread even. I support music coming out from the beginning till present. Thiers select LP's I got lots of respect for that have come out post-95. So quit projecting that weak ass comment at me.

The words "94 or bust" never came out my mouth at any point in time.

Btw, just to upset that whole perspective, I was feeling Tippin on 44's when it came out!

Also, wtf is with calling me money. I'm not bread to you, and you can't buy me so whats with that sh*t? Thats not a personal attack at you Doc, I am just curious the science behind that slang. I'm from the West, so i'm slow on the uptake on certain NE slanguage.
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By docmartin120 Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:11 pm
drumat!c wrote:bring the skills to the forefront.....lets hear what you've got....show and prove....and quit frontin'....


YOUR MAN was calling people out!!! Get it RIGHT!!!
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By Lo Pass Filter Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:27 pm
I didn't make any references to who called who out. Wtf are you talking about ? Half the time you talk you don't make sense. Whatever though, stay up. I've said what I had to say.
By L. Tombstone Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:48 pm
....Damn peeps, 11 pages of that sh**?? I ain't been here in a minute but damn, I almost hit the floor laughing reading some of that sh** right there :lol: . Wouldn't cats be better of trading sounds or insight? What cha tryin to prove to who? Nobody cares all that much, keep it clean. I'm out. *Slides silently back off into the cut.*
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By Lo Pass Filter Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:55 pm
From where I'm standing, i've dropped quite a bit of insight. 8)
By L. Tombstone Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:00 am
..don't get me wrong some good points were made, ain't tryin to step on toes, cats take sh** too far with these arguments. What do I know anyway?...I been out the mix for quite some time. No disrespect homie, I'm just tryin to get/stay away from that vibe. These divisions in hip-hop or music in general keep the corporations in power.

There was a time when hip-hop was just hip-hop. A DJ Quik fan was an Eric B. & Rakim or KRS1 fan. Now erything's on some old 'this or that' tip. Who cares. Make music, enjoy your life and make the most of your talents. Nuff said. Ain't mean to interfere.
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By docmartin120 Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:10 am
L. Tombstone wrote:These divisions in hip-hop or music in general keep the corporations in power.

There was a time when hip-hop was just hip-hop. A DJ Quik fan was an Eric B. & Rakim or KRS1 fan. Now erything's on some old 'this or that' tip. Who cares. Make music, enjoy your life and make the most of your talents. Nuff said. Ain't mean to interfere.


READ THAT Lo Filter, or whatever your name is...

Lo Pass Filter wrote:I didn't come back out against you and dedicate a whole diss for you,


You WERE making reference to ME making a dis track for YOUR MAN!!!

Man your hopeless... or should I say MONEY to drop some kind of science. What a dickhe@d!!!

By elmacaco Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:35 am
Ok, this really is a waste.

I think the beat battle was friendly, Doc just likes shyt talkin and it seems more serious when he types it than he possibly means it.

Lo, just let em do the battle, these arguments really get us nowhere and don;t belong in the 60 forum (if they belog anywhere)

Oh yeah, can we keep the "hip hop isn;t about..." discussions to somewhere like production techniques? or Off Topic? It just gets everybody riled up.

Doc, I would like to hear some of your top shelf stuff, I don;t like judging people based on quick beats. I am glad you dusted off the sp.

By dfacedxa Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:57 am
from an mc point of view that doc beat is type nasty kinda ish to break a muhfugga down to. didnt read the 11 pages of crap but i like that beat. i wanna hear some drumatic response death. wahtever yah beefin about fug it if some hot beats come out of it.
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By Lo Pass Filter Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:19 am
L - With all due respect, the only division I am creating, and will continue to create, is one with people who represent Hip-Hop with a dollar sign in front of it.

Doc - You still haven't dropped the science behind calling people "money". Is it cause you don't know, or because your mad at me dissin' on you so your gonna hold the knowledge captive?

As far as what you wanted me to read, I can dig it. But you got to keep in mind in 93/94, my city was showing the East no love. And i'm sure the East was showing no love to us minus Dr. Dre. The blurring of lines between coasts didn't come into play till Big and Pac got murdered. After that, (the murders) all the networking took place and people from both coasts got more open minded. Thier was always a select few such as myself, who showed love for both zones of Hip-Hop even when it was unpopular, but we were a small minority back then.

Im'a end it like this though.. just like back when, nothing has changed. I'm still the minority in the 0-pound. I represent what I feel to be the authentic brand of Hip-Hop. All that means to me is, beats with soul, and rhymes with depth. If you can dig that concept, we share a common bond, if not, were polar opposites who need to stay out each others paths.
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By docmartin120 Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:39 pm
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By elmacaco Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:00 pm
yo, those drums are killin me with the highs, it's like just the bad part of 12 bit, captured at a higher rate. mainly the snare and hats, that's not the crispy I know and love.

Was that the XL resampling at a lower bitrate? Sometimes that happens when you sample an SP-1200 into a 16 bit sampler, it just brings out the highs and makes the worst of the 12 bit come through louder. That's why recording 12 bit is a bit trickier, all the classic 12 bit stuff was done to tape, but as you know recording to digital is a different story. It's like knowing how to mic something right, knowing how to sample matters more in 12 bit.

I like this beat better than the others you posted, but I'd like to hear some of your stuff that has more care taken in the arrangement..

Hey look everybody!! Me and Doc are having a normal constructive conversation!!!

Can we ease up on the trash talkin though? I like this back and forth beat battle stuff, but hurling insults helps no one and kinda messes up any honest judging worse.
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By FLUENT Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:01 am
yo doc, breakdown is dope. and the fact that you can spot samples from producers on this site isnt really shit, cuz no one who posts music here digs