How Come???

I have noticed parts in songs where the DJ's or producers use a sample off wax and scratch with it u know maybe on the hook or something. When I have the same records if i scratch the same verse or whatever it doesnt seem scratchable or not as high pitched does anybody know what i am talking about? So i guess my question is , is how do they make a seemingly unscratchable part to work?

try to cut down on your Bass on the Eq when scratching that part, also try addin some compression to the scratch, i've noticed that when i do something like this if i add a little effects it also makes it louder, but cut the bass down for sure,
hope this helps.
e.d.e

pitch the record up before you scratch it.

duh.

uh....

maybe try making sure the beats are at the same tempo

I think all those suggestions will help. I also noticed that some producers actually have "fake" scratches before the sound or vocal drops, so it sounds like it's that sound that's being scratched when it isn't. Sometimes it's pretty easy to tell, sometimes it isn't, but it is another method.

Basically, take a record that sounds really dope being scratched that is kinda similar sounding to what you want to scratch but somehow isn't sounding right when you try to scratch it....do the cuts and have it sequenced so that the scratch and sample either run right into each other, or even over lap. If you have a wav editing program you can even edit the beginning of the sample to sound like the beginning is slightly slowed down for few miliseconds to mimic what happens when someone is actually scratchng.

I agree with ONE. I've always thought some guys use smoke and mirrors for there scratches. And I also agree with dj e.d.e, you should try cutting cutting the low end levels on your samples before scratching them.

When dudes scratch in a vocal for a hook, they often use the acapella version.....if you're trying to scratch the same vocal on the version with beats, it won't sound the same.

TicToc wrote:pitch the record up before you scratch it.

duh.

AHhahahahahahahah!!!! nice one!

you said the record doesnt seem "high pitched" enough.

so make the pitch higher.

ONE wrote:I think all those suggestions will help. I also noticed that some producers actually have "fake" scratches before the sound or vocal drops, so it sounds like it's that sound that's being scratched when it isn't. Sometimes it's pretty easy to tell, sometimes it isn't, but it is another method.

Basically, take a record that sounds really dope being scratched that is kinda similar sounding to what you want to scratch but somehow isn't sounding right when you try to scratch it....do the cuts and have it sequenced so that the scratch and sample either run right into each other, or even over lap. If you have a wav editing program you can even edit the beginning of the sample to sound like the beginning is slightly slowed down for few miliseconds to mimic what happens when someone is actually scratchng.

THIS FAKE Scratch technique IS Quite True I've Seen this Done In A Couple OF PRO Studios' and IT Started Long Ago When CD Became More Common ........
Some Producers Did not own the Actual Vinyl and only had a Wav File OR A CD and U Couldn't Scratch CDs then SO They GOT A Record preferbly something similar and they would SCRATCH it Just Before the Actual Sound and In A Multi-track or Audio Editor (A Multi-Track is Better U Can Hear IT IN Context) they would Slightly Fade out the Fake and Slightly Fade IN the Actual Sound and Some times overlap them Jus' a bit then Eq / Compress or Both with both Sounds to Make Them Blend Better then They'd Add A Little REVERB the Key Here IS A (LITTLE)
don't Wash It OUT!!!!!! because u Jus' want to Place Both Sounds in The Same Space.....................................

This Was Also Done on Sounds Sampled Off Tape..................

Well my newest joint Nostalgia http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/heatwave_music.htm has a great example of this. I had to search and search for the record for Ahmad's "Back In The Day". On the vinyl, there's an accapella version. what I did was 1. do a baby scratch that leads directly into the sample. 2. As i did that, I had my software on record mode so that this would be recorded. 3. I chopped up the entire sample (including the baby scratch) and laced it across my track. But's that's just my method.

^^dope kid, dope! thats a good composition why did it spark up good bad and ugly times as a kid thats an ill track yo. that was a good use of a scratch in there i though i like to do my scratches live never tried it sampled,
good job

dj e.d.e wrote:^^dope kid, dope! thats a good composition why did it spark up good bad and ugly times as a kid thats an ill track yo. that was a good use of a scratch in there i though i like to do my scratches live never tried it sampled,
good job

Thanx man, I really appreciate the positive feedback...Well, that track made me think back to my childhood days, and my childhood was no walk in the park, far from lovely...I tried scratching live but I couldn't get it synced up perfectly, but maybe one day I'll have it down...

When dudes scratch in a vocal for a hook, they often use the acapella version.....if you're trying to scratch the same vocal on the version with beats, it won't sound the same.

I don't know about that......

I love syncing up a record (vox and beat) to my beats, then filter them badboys.....

no doubt its harder than just cuttiin an acapella, but peep primo and PR tracks they do a lot of this