Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs

By ntalec Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:11 pm
Just a silent observer who never really likes to comment on the works of others; the both seem somewhat similar.
Now don't twist it I am not saying the same I mean in the same realm.
Drumz turntable work throws you off that fact to a major degree.
Hey drum can you strip the cutz from the track and let then listen?
Maybe if peopel heard it that way they would see that you guyz are standing on familar territory.
I can tell that the decks is your thing so I'm not saying you shouldn't flip them in your sh*t I'm just talking from a point of reference type thing.
Just when I listen to the 2 tracks I hear that you guyz were influenced by some of the same people.
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By docmartin120 Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:18 pm
ntalec wrote:Just a silent observer who never really likes to comment on the works of others; the both seem somewhat similar.
Now don't twist it I am not saying the same I mean in the same realm.
Drumz turntable work throws you off that fact to a major degree.
Hey drum can you strip the cutz from the track and let then listen?
Maybe if peopel heard it that way they would see that you guyz are standing on familar territory.
I can tell that the decks is your thing so I'm not saying you shouldn't flip them in your sh*t I'm just talking from a point of reference type thing.
Just when I listen to the 2 tracks I hear that you guyz were influenced by some of the same people.


Actually, I knew most of these cats like that style of music so I basically took this advice:
ill vibe wrote:Stuck in the 80s/90s was the wrong phrase, i should've said something like many 60/3000 users prefer the hip hop from back then, so don't expect too many people here to prefer your (Doc's) beats over Drumatic's.
There's nothing wrong with cats trying to take it back, and yes dodging wackness is wayyy harder now than it used to be :wink:


And NOT to sh!t on you Drum, but is that John Klemmer's "Tone Row Weaver"???
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By Nino304 Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:49 pm
ill vibe wrote:Stuck in the 80s/90s was the wrong phrase, i should've said something like many 60/3000 users prefer the hip hop from back then, so don't expect too many people here to prefer your (Doc's) beats over Drumatic's.
There's nothing wrong with cats trying to take it back, and yes dodging wackness is wayyy harder now than it used to be :wink:


^ Not true. Some 60/3000 users may prefer the mid-90s east coast boom bap but not all of us. U can't lump us in2 a musical category based on the MPC we use.

By elmacaco Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:36 pm
I liked Doc's latest submission much better than his other stuff, but IMO Drumatic's beat takes it. I heard much more care, If either of these came on the radio or in a club Drumatic's would get me hyped, While I would enjoy Doc's beat for sure it wouldn't get my blood pumpin as much. Maybe it is the cuts and creative use of vocal samples, delays, etc. Also Drumatic varied his drum pattern more throughout the beat and kept it interesting, Doc's pattern had less variation, and a little less imagination, but was still pretty tight.

It really comes down to style, Whoever you think won both are quality beats, and like someone else said it's no landslide.

Yo DOc, thanks for stepping it up a bit for us, I get more of a sense of your skills from this one than the other two, it looked like you were just trying to get some fish ;)
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By drumat!c Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:48 pm
No worries.....i'll post something more obscure for your earjoyment. I mentioned you using Axelrod's Holy Thursday and you got all specific with a Klemmer sample. Fine by me.....let's keep this going.

DRUMZ.1

By ill vibe Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:56 pm
Nino304 wrote:
ill vibe wrote:Stuck in the 80s/90s was the wrong phrase, i should've said something like many 60/3000 users prefer the hip hop from back then, so don't expect too many people here to prefer your (Doc's) beats over Drumatic's.
There's nothing wrong with cats trying to take it back, and yes dodging wackness is wayyy harder now than it used to be :wink:


^ Not true. Some 60/3000 users may prefer the mid-90s east coast boom bap but not all of us. U can't lump us in2 a musical category based on the MPC we use.
Chill, i said "many"... not all :wink:

Both beats are nice. It's close but i'd say Drumatic takes it. Doc those drums are bangin' man!
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By Nino304 Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:14 pm
I stay chill 8)
Just trying 2 breakdown a common misconception.

By fobedafied Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:17 pm
docs second beat was pretty cool... i still think drumatics beat won over both docs beats... nice chit both of yall... :)

By dfacedxa Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:19 pm
yeah i heard the first doc beat. shit is nice but damn. damn you got your ass handed to you like the surgeon was rockin a machete. i dont think that theres even a comparison. worth the wait. drumatic hurt muhfuggas wit that. yo doc you gotta rock that next shit.... best creative outcome ive seen from cats talkin shit on the internet.
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By the average man Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:40 pm
Lord Finesse used that rhodes sample on the awakening. Nice though

edit: didn't realise someone else mentioned it. But yeah Drumatic's did it for me more to do with the nice sample, its a shame its been used elsewhere.... Doc's was OK too, but certainly no landslide

MORE BEAT BATTLES THOUGH!!! 8)
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By drumat!c Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:52 pm
Yes thanks for mentioning that a 4th time......we now all know once again that Lord Finesse used that same groovey chilled out sample on the Awakening's interlude with Mc Lyte, titled "Taking It Lyte."

Thanks for chiming in....

DRUMAT!C

Aight i'll go post some of my own interlude type beats.....you could prolly freestyle to if you wanted.....nothing special!
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By drumat!c Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:41 pm
sorry....just getting a bit touchy.....I dig the AG quote....peace...

By dj imperial beatz Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:59 am
drumatic thats a nice ass beat! im really feelin your sh*t man. i liked your "drumz stash" beats. your drums are nice, another reason why i want an SP so bad.
i liked that pete rock sounding horn stab you had in there...nice sh*t!
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By DOVESKI Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:03 am
Sorry to reserct this thread or whatever, but im curious @ drumatic, on Redundant, how did you get those nice verbs/delay at the end of some of your cuts and samples, i been trying to incorporate that for the longest but cant get it right.