Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By funklove68 Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:21 am
Does anyone out there actually use the step editing function? Ive had my 2000xl for 2 years and never used it, not that I havent tried to figure it out. It does not make any sense to me.

ByBubble Butt Wed Oct 22, 2003 3:07 pm
i use it all the time, it's really handy if you use the mpc to control other midi gear or to fine-edit drum patterns

eg you've written the perfect beat except for one messed up hit - play thru the loop, press stop as soon as you hear the mistake, enter step edit, press shift <event, delete or copy and paste into the right time...

or you want to copy your kick drum pattern and assign it to a bass - copy the track, then step-edit each note to change the pad assignment...
ByAviary Disaster Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:55 pm
funklove68 wrote:Does anyone out there actually use the step editing function? Ive had my 2000xl for 2 years and never used it, not that I havent tried to figure it out. It does not make any sense to me.


You must make some of the worst beats in the world cause I use step edit all the time.

ALL THE TIME.

Peace
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By Lampdog Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:01 pm
I use it to fine tune my stuff within the seq.
It's a good feature once you get the hang of it.
I would rather have it than not.

Could I live without it, just maybe but I would dream
and fantasize about it.
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By mesh Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:07 pm
you need to figure the step mode out. i use it all the time. basically you can go in and edit all the little things in the beat one by one. if you got a certain hit that is a little too loud or soft, step edit allows you to turn it up or down at that particular spot in the beat. you can adjust tune, velocity, filter, decay, attack, ...

it is a very handy aspect of the mpc. saves you from having to rebang your beats to fix that one little imperfection.

USE IT!
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By Dr.Foo Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:17 pm
word. I also love to use step edit and lately I have been using it to lay down hats instead of using the pads. I like to have total control over the hats, and I find that if I bang it out I end up going back over and step editing most of it anyway.

I do this on the hat since its the hat that drives dace/hip-hop music.

BUT I don know people who make nice beats but never use step edit, which is kinda whack, its like having a 67 mustang and only driving it in 1st and second you are missin out on all the rest it has to offer.
By funklove68 Thu Oct 23, 2003 6:34 am
well perhaps instead of yall telling me how good it is yall might explain a bit about how to use it cause i dont get it at all??
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By Army Of Darkness Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:50 am
Maybe it´s you who suck at making beats since you have to go into step edit ALL the time correcting your pad hits... Just a thougt...

I record everything live with my pads, and if I don´t nail it, I just erase it and do it again...

By oraziodelcore Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:03 am
someone please explain how to step edit again I didn`t really understand how to do it

pace/Orazio Del Core
By funklove68 Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:52 am
well said army of darkness, I couldnt have said it better.
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By mesh Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:01 pm
i thought i already explained it well enough. but here goes a little more. dont forget you all have a manual with this info in it.

in step edit you have the ability to edit every pad hit you have done. heres the process:

lay down a sequence of some sort, whatever floats your boat.
hit 'step' in the sequence screen.
you are now editing whatever track you were on in the sequence screen.
start at 1.01.001 or whatever the time is, i am not in front of my mpc right now.
now scroll through the sequence using the locate buttons or by using the jogwheel with the cursor in the time window.
you will be going through this at increments determined by your quantization: i.e. the 1/16, 1/8, 1/32, window. so if you layed down your sequnce in 1/16, scroll through the sequence in step mode in 1/16 or some of your hits may not show up. you can adjust this in the step mode screen by simply hitting time in the left part of screen and switching the quantization.
ok now you find a hit. like i said before you can now adjust the velocity, tuning , attack, filter, or even replace or delete the pad you originally played. you can put program changes in, basically you are able to edit the hell out of it. it is very handy.

this function lets you be smart and fast about making your beats and getting them rock solid all the time. ever notice that a snare hit doesnt quite hit right at that one spot in your sequence? step mode will let you delete and move it a couple ticks up or down by switching the quant to off and scrolling a couple of ticks. easy. smart. effective. what more do you want?
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By Dr.Foo Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:31 pm
mesh basically said it all, STEP edit, EDIT in STEPS, the steps are defined by you, so you can edit a sequence by STEPPING thgrough it. Its really useful and important to get it down since, when it comes time to start "tweakin" parameters, moving notes around, tightening up drum rolls, step edit is mad valuable,


oh and c'mon y'all squash that internet drama, the best thing about this site is there aint no drama, especially now that the guy "Freq" posing as snoop dogs best friend is gone. Internet beef, man dat ish is soooooo 1996 :roll:
By funklove68 Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:34 pm
Thanks mesh for explaining that. (Some people prefer to just put down novices like myself who ask what might seem like simple questions, and use the opportunity instead to tell everyone how great they think they are. Then again some people need to make others feel small to make themselves feel big.) Having said that I guess I can understand that step editing does have its uses but isnt it really just another way of editing everything more quickly? Everything you said that it does , I do from the parameters screen and mixer etc. The quantizing function keeps all the beats really tight anyway so that hasnt been a problem either, I really have not noticed anything that needs editing in this way and like 'army of darkness' said 'I do everything live and if I dont nail it I erase and do again' , Maybe if you use your mpc to make money and you have time restraints etc it may be handy but I dont have that problem. Anyway I looked at it again after your explanation and it still seems like rocket science to me, maybe Ill get it one day but for now Im happy with the sounds Im making. cheers :wink:
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By mesh Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:58 pm
funklove68 wrote: but isnt it really just another way of editing everything more quickly?


yeah, a lot quicker and more effective than just doin it in the parameters and mixer screen. i didnt use it for a long time either, didnt think i needed to. now i am always using it. and you can do more than what you can do in the other screens. for instance, if you are doing a fade in, or a filter sweep, or something like that. the step screen lets you fine tune all those little changes to the T. know what i mean.

just try this:
take a hihat and lace up some 1/16th notes straight in a repetitive pattern. now go into the step screen and mess with the tune, or filter, or attack. it defaults to popping up with Tun, or tune, jog thru it and you will get to filter(Flt). now program a filter sweep starting out at -50 and go up in increments thru each 1/16th note to end up at +50 at the end of the sequence. whalaa, a filter sweep. of course you can program this on the fly with the note variation slider, buit in step mode you can fine tune each of those slider changes to get the perfect sweep. now take this method and run with it. i guarantee if you try some stuff like this you will get some cool ideas and you will slowly find new ways to use the step mode.
good luck!
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By JusDaFied Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:47 pm
Yeah, I couldn't live without it.