Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By Science Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:40 am
im not big on sampling but i understand the concepts of how to sample, how to cut the sample, and how to count out the bars. (i have yet to a sample based beat i like) it seems i have trouble geting my samples to fall right on time with the metronome. (but i been practicing) i noticed though that my turntable has a very slight warp when i play records. its not audible but i can see it when the record is spining. could this be the problem for the adversity im having geting my samples to go on point he the metronome?, you know because of the slight abnormalties in the record spining? im not sure if i am sure i explain this clearly so only reply if you understand what im talking about.

By grimaybeats555 Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:45 am
How did you get a warp on your turntable? :? Anyways if the warp slows down the tempo then yeah your samples will be off.
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By cluster Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:49 am
What kind of table you have? maybe its time to step it up if its a older table and such...

Personally I am still rocking my 1210 mk2s after about 7 years now...
Had them tuned up once, and they still operate as smooth as butter, built like tanks...

If its belt drive, them shits suck, but just try sampling a few seconds before your cut your sample, thus it will not affect the speed of the sample...

hmmm I have no other ideas right now

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By Science Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:52 am
it is a gemini xl-500 2 direct drive manual.
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By TicToc Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:26 am
take the platter off and double check that there are no warps in the platter intself, and nothing causing it to warp. Its easy, you just grab the platter from the two finger holes in it and pull straight up, it should pop right off. Be real careful with the magnet, dont bump or bend it with the platter when you pull it off.

It could also be that the feet on your turntable are uneven.

Also, double check that its not a warp in your slipmat. Ive had cheap slipmats in the past that wouldnt lay flat....just get a new one, and it should solve the problem. Get the thinnest slipmat you can find if you are only using the table for sampling.
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By Jacpot Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:46 am
I been djin for like 11 years and I never heard of a platter warping
but other than that it wont effect your sampleing if its not audible like u said

By VanFanel Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:34 am
Science wrote:it is a gemini xl-500 2 direct drive manual.


Word, I got the exact same turntable that you have. Exact same one. I can also see the warp in mine, when it's turning. No, i doesn't effect the sample, it just makes it more prone to skipping...you should just chop your samples

By peezie Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:28 am
Does it stay on beat then start to drift? Most live recorded music wont be perfect. If youre using a pretty long loop, it gets worse. You just have to deal with it the best you can. Pay attention to how the sample falls off beat and make adjustment to soft start or speed of the sample. Also try shifting the sample a tick or two.
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By binger0 Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:45 am
u have the 2000xl right? If i were i would sample something first. goto trim. Find the one and the begining of the next 1 that u want to use. Then in trim turn loop on. then goto params to see what the bpm is. Then goto edit then timesrtech to what tempo u want. then goto zone and cut it up into equal slices. 2 bars = 16 chops in 1/8th notes. THen replay thouse to the metronome.
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By Gory Gooch Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:41 am
Turn off your quantize and don't worry about the metronome. If it is looping correctly, the sample will work.

By elmacaco Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:49 am
Binger got the ill technique, Gooch on the Zen tip.

By peezie Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:16 am
Sheeit, I dont have any of those fancy features. Gotta play by the ear
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By Science Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:04 am
binger0 wrote:u have the 2000xl right? If i were i would sample something first. goto trim. Find the one and the begining of the next 1 that u want to use. Then in trim turn loop on. then goto params to see what the bpm is. Then goto edit then timesrtech to what tempo u want. then goto zone and cut it up into equal slices. 2 bars = 16 chops in 1/8th notes. THen replay thouse to the metronome.


insightful^^^^^^ :idea:
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By j.m Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:19 am
Maybe you could also try Vocalign.

I've read in the new digizine where they interviewed the pea's that Will I Am uses it a lot.

sometimes some of the session musicians will drop some licks, they get recorded and Will I Am uses them on his lappy as "loops".

Often they don't fit exactly the rythm he has in his head - so he bangs out a rythm - with his hands on the table, or just program a pattern in the mpc.

Turn that into a .wav file - then take vocalign and use to align your licks/samples to your own "rythm" sample.

And Baaam! Voila, the samples fits.

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I must admit that I didn't try it myself - but will take a look into.

Sounds very cool to me. 8)
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By EMFinite Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:54 pm
when i sample i do the drums first.

then i grab my sample and chop it up in "trim" into pieces and assign them to pads that are comfortably close to each other.

then i go to parameters and use "tune" to adjust the tempo of my samples. i then play my drums, turn the jog wheel and tap the pad where my sample is(i do this all at the same time) until it fits --and everytime i hit it right on the nose. i also use freq to reduce the sound of crackles and to give the sample more of a warm feel.

i think its better chop your samples up. the smaller they are the better chance of a cohesive fit.

i dont like using samples cuz even though im not a BIG NAME i worry about infringement.