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By Jenre Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:48 pm
exactly. plus I like doing my drums and arranging samples on the MPC and recording and sequencing all my midi in Cubase or Pro Tools. then i track to cubase/pro tools and do the final mix. it works well for me.
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By akaidemix Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:06 pm
anyone know the frame rate for midi clock on the 1000???

By pad-ophiliac Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:29 am
a friend of mine was asking me about my 1k and midi and i told him that the 1k will only work as a slave and he seemed convinced that it had to have the option to be master because 2in/2out. i know he's refering to the midi I/Os but didn't know what to tell him since i haven't gotten to that point yet. do any of you guys know why he thought that having 2 I/Os would mean that or what should i tell the guy? is that something that could change with an update or no?
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By Penfold Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:42 am
f'ing hell man!

Cubase as Master and 1000 as slave works fine! Midi VStis the works! all at the same time.. no MTC so who cares! just means no snyc with Audtion, SF or those types of programs.

By pad-ophiliac Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:12 am
i guess i'm mistaken by the terms "master" and "slave". i want to get a micron and i was thinking that i could play the micron's sounds by hitting the pads on the 1k. but i would also perceive that as the 1k being the master? what about the other way around, will i be able to play the samples i have on the 1k using the keys on the micron?

thanks

By sleepersriddle Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:00 pm
master/slave doesn't refer to triggering indiv. notes from one machine 2 another (and the mpc can both send and receive notes, its true. so the micron thing will work.)

it refers to having 2 machines that are each playing back from their own sequencers, and you want the tempo to line up, so you use 'midi clock' to send timing signals from one (master) to the other (slave).

and, the mpc can be a master, but only using 'midi clock' not using 'midi time code' (not the same). for instance, mpc is master to my machinedrum, works fine. the reason it doesn't work with cubase is more to do with the way they programmed cubase.

also, i agree w/ everyone that using cubase as master basically works, and u probably wont notice problems... but, i do have a feeling that the timin won't be quite as tight.

the reason i think this is that pc midi interfaces usually have a lot of jitter (random deviation) in the output:: i notice this if i use my machinedrum as slave to pc:: u can look at the tempo display, and it's bouncing up and down.

i have also read articles about this jitter, and even measured it one time for part of a school project (dont ask :) )

now it is true that there are some midi interfaces that use a better method to interact with cubase (time stamping) and are going to be better than your run of the mill midisport or whatever. in that case u can probly get really tight timing out of cubase.

By pad-ophiliac Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:20 pm
awesome, thanks for clearing that up for me.
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By Penfold Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:32 pm
sleepersriddle wrote:master/slave doesn't refer to triggering indiv. notes from one machine 2 another (and the mpc can both send and receive notes, its true. so the micron thing will work.)

it refers to having 2 machines that are each playing back from their own sequencers, and you want the tempo to line up, so you use 'midi clock' to send timing signals from one (master) to the other (slave).

and, the mpc can be a master, but only using 'midi clock' not using 'midi time code' (not the same). for instance, mpc is master to my machinedrum, works fine. the reason it doesn't work with cubase is more to do with the way they programmed cubase.

also, i agree w/ everyone that using cubase as master basically works, and u probably wont notice problems... but, i do have a feeling that the timin won't be quite as tight.

the reason i think this is that pc midi interfaces usually have a lot of jitter (random deviation) in the output:: i notice this if i use my machinedrum as slave to pc:: u can look at the tempo display, and it's bouncing up and down.

i have also read articles about this jitter, and even measured it one time for part of a school project (dont ask :) )

now it is true that there are some midi interfaces that use a better method to interact with cubase (time stamping) and are going to be better than your run of the mill midisport or whatever. in that case u can probly get really tight timing out of cubase.


f'in hell!! we have more MIDI and Cubase genius; round here!! great stuff! i can go on holiday now! :D
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By jfunk Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:41 pm
grandpricks wrote:but if you slave the mpc doesn't that defeat the purpose of using the mpc since its used because it's sequencer is so tight?

why wouldn't u just make the tracks in cubase in the first place then and eliminate the mpc?

just wondering


totally agree with this... my favourite part of the mpc is its time/groove. i'd love to be able to use cubase with it, but not at the expense of the mpc's clock. i've just been using my mpc with reaktor in standalone mode for this reason. software sequencing sucks... mpc rules!!!
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By Penfold Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:14 am
yeah but there is a difference between the groove timing and the syncing of the two... tempo is tempo, what happens inbetween that or whilst that is going on is a different thing, this is your groove. this will always stay as you have programmed it no matter is u slave the mpc or have it as master.
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By jfunk Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:31 am
i see what your saying, but when i use the word 'groove', i dont mean just note placement or swing quantize settings... i'm talking about the fact that the exact same beat played on an mpc and a computer will sound different, as the mpc's clock has a far more human sound to it... the reasons for which i dont know... maybe its inaccurate or something?? you may be right in saying there is no difference, i dont know, but in either case, i'm not comfortable syncing to a computer!!
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By Penfold Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:50 am
not to sound offending mate but its in the mind. cause when i sync Cubase to the MPC (I record vocals into Cubase but not the beat, leaving the the MPC to play out the tune till i have completed the vocals) it sounds fine to me. Because its only playing the TEMPO and not the triggered events.

If you are experiencinh changes in the way it syncs then maybe you need to look at you midi interface perhaps.
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By tewamor Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:39 am
I use a cubase as a master to my MPC. (Penfold taught me how, thanks) It's dope. I ended up teaching my mentor how to do it also. It's always fun to teach your teacher how to do something. Especially when they told you it's impossible. lol.

By coniption Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:17 am
MPC master.. LIVE slave
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By TFunk13 Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:58 am
I use Cubase SX with an MPC1k. I use Cubase for master sync, and use both sequencers. I sequence all of my VST instruments inside of Cubase and sequence all of my samples on the MPC. Then record everything in with the 6 outs.