Serious Synth Users: The Matrix 6 Vs. Juno 106

I know the Juno 106 is more popular,do think the Oberheim Matrix is just as good?? I was gonna buy a matrix about a year ago but one of the output was broken. I heard the Patch capabilties are limitless. Does anyone know enuff to compare the 2?

"Serious Synth Users"

Wrong forum dude! This is rompler land!

"I know the Juno 106 is more popular, do think the Oberheim Matrix is just as good??"

Maybe consider the Matrix 1000 which is a preset only Matrix 6 in a rack. However, you can still edit the sounds via external editors so all is not so bad.. Also, the Matrix 6 is very laborious to edit so perhaps you will revert to an editor anyway.. I do also know that the Matrix synths have very slow envelopes so not ideal for really punchy bass sounds..

If you are going to consider a racked version (either the 1000 or the Matrix 6r) maybe then consider the Cheetah MS-6 which is pretty much a Matrix sound wise and architecture wise. However, the Cheetah has one massive advantage over the Matrix - its multitimbral! There is even a 3rd party O/S you can get for it that allows full CC control and adds other advantages. Its done by Colin Fraser (the guy that did my 303 midi kit design and install).

The 106 is another nice DCO synth and I would guess alot more fun to use because of all the sliders.. I am very much into interfaces so I would tend to go for the 106 but then probably buy a Cheetah MS-6 as well (Im not very good at making A or B decisions as my answer is always 'get A and B'!)

Let us know what you do or if you have more questions. Analogue Heaven is THE place for anything analogue related. If you search their archives there will be a ton of info..

http://www.retrosynth.com/ah/

Serious Synth Users"

Wrong forum dude! This is rompler land!
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lol- and only about four romplers at that

greg

I have a friend who has both the juno and the oberheim rackmount. When he first got the oberhiem he spent the first few days just amazed at the presets but see he is real into the whole keyboard scene, he would pull up a patch and say "Man, this is the exact sound that (insert flamboyant 70's Synth virtuoso here) used on (Insert live album from japan in 78 here)." Personally I would go with the 106 because I enjoyed the presets and having the knobs and faders available for tweeking. Either one isn't very expensive and either one will offer you some very cool usable sounds.

matrix 1000 is worthless without the eidtor, go for the Obie 6.

dennison wrote:I have a friend who has both the juno and the oberheim rackmount. When he first got the oberhiem he spent the first few days just amazed at the presets but see he is real into the whole keyboard scene, he would pull up a patch and say "Man, this is the exact sound that (insert flamboyant 70's Synth virtuoso here) used on (Insert live album from japan in 78 here)." Personally I would go with the 106 because I enjoyed the presets and having the knobs and faders available for tweeking. Either one isn't very expensive and either one will offer you some very cool usable sounds.

I think Eventually( when I get The $$$) I'm going to go with the Juno 106
Since I'm very much an entry level Synth user It would make more since!

I've got a Juno 60 & a Matrix 1000 rack. The Matrix has a bigger, fatter sound (exactly the type of sound that Dennison's friend seems so excited about!) but I prefer the Juno which can be both dirtier & more subtle than the Matrix.

The Juno 60 is meant to have a bit more bottom end than the Juno 106. It doesn't have midi so is usually cheaper than the 106, but a unit to connect its syncing system to midi will usually bring it up to a similar price. If you don't need midi because you will just be sampling from it the Juno 6 is even cheaper. I think the only difference is the 6 has no patch memory.

If you have ever owned the Matrix6 and you are a synth man your opinion will be different.
The interface on the 6 was still designed with presets and simple routing in mind, it's a deep box with a shallow box interface.
The box goes deep but it has the button push mentality and short life buttons, meaning you go up and down through the functions with the bubble buttons and they have a short life expectancy.
The Matrix mod allows for some incredible routing but the again you are dealing with a button push interface so it's not as smooth as you would like.
If you buy one check it out before you buy it. Check to seeif any buttons are slow or non-repsonsive they can't be replaced and turn the unit off and on a couple of times to see if you get a garbled display.

after 3 years of owner a juno106 i cant deffently recommend one. apart from the issues reagrds the IC chips and losing voices there great.

Always thought the Juno 60 was the better box.

Hi - there is a load of Juno info at:

http://machines.hyperreal.org/manufactu ... land/Juno/

Remember that the Juno 6 has not external control method so its play-time only. The Juno 60 has the proprietary Roland DCB interface which can be hooked up to MIDI via a special Kenton box..

Good luck..

punkdISCO wrote:Hi - there is a load of Juno info at:

http://machines.hyperreal.org/manufactu ... land/Juno/

Remember that the Juno 6 has not external control method so its play-time only. The Juno 60 has the proprietary Roland DCB interface which can be hooked up to MIDI via a special Kenton box..

Good luck..

I hear the juno 106 has a better selection of sounds(esp.,for Hip Hop) than the Juno 60. The 60 is Supposedlly just somewhat fatter(Don't how much though). Plus it's FULLY MIDI Implemented and Digtialy Controlled!

get a yamaha tx-7, screw analog!

Philly Stress wrote:I hear the juno 106 has a better selection of sounds(esp.,for Hip Hop) than the Juno 60.

From this statement alone I can see that either will be wasted on you. I think you'd really be better served with a motif, save up, I think it will get you further where you want to go. This would probably take ou a year or two to realize, that in the same amount of space you would have more power and more immediate sounds at your disposal, whereas after spending the 400 or so on the analog synth, you realize it'll only be good for one part at a time and you need to get something in addition for it to really hook you up propperly. In the same space you could have had everything with something like the motif.

Analog is great, but I don;t think it will keep you happy very long.

Yeah man.. Screw warmth, fatness, organics, and dynamics! Lets keep it cold and lifeless - lets all go digital!

Who wants to sell me a Mofit?!!!



PS: I actually quite like FM Particularly FM7 - it rocks!