Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By dukeluke Sat Oct 25, 2003 9:38 pm
What you think what the best machine for makin rnb or hiphop beatz,would like to buy one of these machines,but dont know exactly which
could you give me a hint? :oops:

Thx a lot

Nice Forum over here ! :D

By elmacaco Sat Oct 25, 2003 9:42 pm
mv 8000
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By DOVESKI Sat Oct 25, 2003 10:19 pm
dukeluke wrote:Nice Forum over here ! :D


yeah so dont turn it into a futureproducers.com with retard questions.

:wink:
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By jues Sun Oct 26, 2003 1:56 am
Each machine does it's own thing, however...

Choose akai, akai have a cool logo, akai will make your beats sound ph4tter, akai will make ladies more attracted to you, akai will not make you look like a nerdy droupout programming shitty beats in his bedroom.

Akai will make you a GOD amongst men

infact

GOD USES AKAI




but then I'm biast.

By dukeluke Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:45 am
:D

lol, i had to know youre guys are 4000 nerds!

thx a lot for ya answers, but is there a big difference in sound between the mv-8000 and the mpc-4000 ?

I was wondering, because the mv is a little bit cheaper and has a burner and effects, is there a site where i can check them both out in terms of options and sound quality

im looking for a maschine timbaland would love :twisted: :mrgreen:
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By SpikeyMan Sun Oct 26, 2003 10:23 am
As far as I have heard Timbo is using MPC4k and Tritons.
I was wondering, because the mv is a little bit cheaper and has a burner and effects,

well, so does the 4k (if you go with the cheapest LE you don't get a burner but the same 4 fx blocks).

a lil comparison i found at http://urbanrhythm.com/news/:

With a price tag close to $4000 dollars, Roland quickly recognized that the MPC was ready for a take down. However, the MPC-4000 is no push over. With 24 bit sample quality, as opposed to the MV's 16 bit, a larger hard drive, a more sophisticated sequencer and control over 64 MIDI channels, the MPC-4000 is a powerful, top-of-the-line, all-in-one production studio. In addition, the MPC's lineage has a distinct advantage over the new MV-8000. Many potential buyers come into stores and ask for the MPC by name, something that has hindered EMU and others from making a significant dent in this tight market. Roland realized that price alone will not be a factor. The MV has a maximum of 100 minutes of 16 bit mono sampling time, 16 velocity sensitive pads with aftertouch, realtime time stretching that can sync to the sequencer's BPM, 128 tracks of MIDI sequencer tracks plus 8 audio tracks, and comprehensive multi-effects including mastering. Both units sport CD-R drives for burning your tracks straight to CD. The MV will be able to import Roland, Akai, Acid, Wav and Aiff audio file formats. The new MV-8000 reportedly will have a street price of about $2300.

By dukeluke Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:25 am
thx a lot for the hint,

is that right that the mv only has 16 bit ? :?
hmm thats not much for a new product!
well i have to compare them in real,but its hard to find a dealer here in germany who has them both :cry:

thx a lot so for for your support
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By SpikeyMan Sun Oct 26, 2003 12:02 pm
is that right that the mv only has 16 bit ?


Yep! I believe there was something strange bout the USB too on the MV but can't remeber what it was.

MV-8000 can have max 8 out (with the 6-output expansion option).
MV8-OP1 expansion card, users gain six additional analog outputs, a digital input, plus an R-BUS port that can be used to transfer up to eight channels of digital audio to R-BUS equipped V-Studios, or to ADAT-compatible devices using the optional DIF-AT Interface Box.

The mpc4k on the other hand can be expanded with both 8 ADAT in/out, 8 analogue out and S/PDIF in/out making it a more powerful machine.

MV-8000 has a reverb, a chorus and a MFX-block.
MPC4k has four individual fx blocks with alotta fx.

I have a fantom-s61 and must say that the pads are CRAP! Dunno though if they are the same on the MV8000.
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By SpikeyMan Sun Oct 26, 2003 12:04 pm
Oh, and I forgot...mc909 has no multisamples and all sounds are more or less technoish.

By dukeluke Sun Oct 26, 2003 12:40 pm
thx, and i have heard that the prices for the mpc 4000 wil drop soon, do the mpc 4000 have an vga output too,because the mv has soon a vga option?
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By SpikeyMan Sun Oct 26, 2003 2:40 pm
Not as far as I know...MPC-3000 had that as an option (and original on the LE-version I think). You don't need that when you have AkSys running on your puter and the 4k hooked up via USB.

By dukeluke Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:12 pm
ok spikey thx a lot for ya help!

I think the 4000 is the one for me :wink:
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By SpikeyMan Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:22 pm
Well, I'm pretty sure we all here know what you *should* get... ;)

By MPC_Producer Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:38 pm
dukeluke,

Don't count on the MPC4000 prices dropping soon. There isn't anything to support that idea. A lot of people express that idea because they think the MPC4000 is high priced. But just because they think that is no reason to assume that AKAI is going to lower the price of their MPC. The price was lowered once already and there are many more buyers interested in it now than a year ago.

If you are serious about the MV-8000 then wait until next year. It isn't out yet anyway. Wait and see how well it works and how it compares with the MPC4000. Roland is taking their time. They want to perfect it so that it doesn't have bugs like the MPC4000. Better quality would surely win over some AKAI customers.

By dukeluke Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:53 pm
so you think the mv8000 will be a better quality machine soon?

thx for your answer