Why Does Hip Hop Production Have So Many "Rules"

I have noticed that over the last 6 months to a year, everyone has jumped on the sample "chop" band wagon, and I hear many people looking down on looping. I have heard some stuff recently, and immediately thought "this could have been ill if he didn't mess it up by chopping the damn sample!". Don't get me wrong, there are times when chopping is necessary, but not everything should be chopped. What is wrong with looping a break or an intro and personalizing that joint with your own additions (keys, fx, etc). Hip-hop production has so many "rules" now, that it's almost like people can't do there own thing anymore. For example I told a dude that I had an ill sample that I wanted to filter the mids and high out and use just the bass. Dudes first reaction was "nobody filters basslines anymore, your track is going to sound dated". Damn, whatever happened to being able to express yourself.

their is NO RULES TO MUSIC if i have to say this again im gonna go crazy. Personally i chop samples because i like being more original. i realy only sample like 20 percent of the time anyway.

I personally know that there are no rules, however my point was that alot of people I meet or interviews I read, it's almost like it is taboo not to follow the "in" trend. Like now everybody wants to pitch their vocal samples. I personally like to sample vocals and leave the pitch the way it is.......

Forget the "rules."If you prefer to loop then do what you like.I like to chop so....i chop.It's all a matter of personal prefernece.We've had this debate a million times but it will never come to an end because we're all different.Which is a beautiful thing.If we all did the same thing in production music would never grow.And by the way,i feel you on that vocal sample thing.

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i dont follow rules i dont give a phuck what people think about my music if they dont like it some one in the world will,
as for choppin i'm trying new things with it so thats why i chop , but i digg a good phucken loop it gives me chicken skin when i hear a fresh ass beat thats been looped tight
just do your thing and dont trip of people thats following the trend if you change for them .
you dig.

Blakksmiff wrote:I personally know that there are no rules, however my point was that alot of people I meet or interviews I read, it's almost like it is taboo not to follow the "in" trend. Like now everybody wants to pitch their vocal samples. I personally like to sample vocals and leave the pitch the way it is.......

Don't worry about them, you do you aiight.. pitching vocal samples has been around for decades, kanye just brought it back to the forefront that's all. But again, you do you, if you feel like having a chorus in a song then do that, if you don't want a chorus do the song with no chorus, do the song with out vocal bars ie, more than 16 or less than 16, make 2 bridges if you want, have your intro go right into a chorus, start off with a chorus and no lead in beat. Start off with the verse and no lead in beat, you do you, you feel?

Do it Your Own Way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Now there Are Other things That I Occasionally Consider IE: Samplin' Clearence or MO' Importantly 2 Me Samplin' Ethics!!!

But this Is Jus' Me At The End of the Production U Must Live With Ur Own ARTISTRY .............................

The reason there are so many rules i so that real producers can have fun breaking them!

Well, it's good to know that some cats don't fall prey to all these trends. I'm like this, if it sound straight, who cares if it aint the "thing" to do right now.

Maaan, just last week I made a beat where I looped, chopped, AND filtered the bassline in the same sample. **** them rules!

i only really chop when i can make it sound, well, un-chopped- re arange it in such a way that it still sounds like a loop, or fix to up a drum roll/bass note at the end of a good loop. I also use it if i only have a loop, but the arangement doesnt resolve in bar that you have to work with, so you need to pitch the end up/down on the last 2 or 3 notes the 2nd time around.

To me excesive/needless chopping is what sounds dated. It's got that "woo-hoo, intead of having 2mb of sample space, ive got , like SIXTEEN TIMES THAT! I can fit a whole BUNCH of 2mb samples on here now" sound

by all means chop to change it up a bit, and get creative- just don't feel like you have to

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So long as ya shits heavy who cares??....I am personally getting sick of all the chipmonk shit thats coming out now..

Bless,

LB

chipmunked vocals were whack in the 60's when people figured it out and they are whack now. Esspecially chipmunked cuntry music- WTF?

Top BiLLin wrote:Maaan, just last week I made a beat where I looped, chopped, AND filtered the bassline in the same sample. **** them rules!

LOL...That's wassup!!

Blakksmiff wrote:I personally know that there are no rules, however my point was that alot of people I meet or interviews I read, it's almost like it is taboo not to follow the "in" trend. Like now everybody wants to pitch their vocal samples. I personally like to sample vocals and leave the pitch the way it is.......

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REAL SPIT! When I have vocals, its rare that I pitch it up. The way I see it, I'm hip-hop emo, so when I sample vocals I want that emotion that the artist put into the song when they recorded it and the way to get that emotion is to leave the pitch untouched.