Chopping in Logic?

The setup I am using is an mpc 60 with Logic 5. I like the idea of just using the mpc for drums to get that warm punchy sound. But i feel like it is also easier to chop samples up on it as well. I rather chop the samples at the clearer 16 bit rate that Logic samples it at. I'm not that experienced with logic but I know how to sample and loop stuff in it. I just don't think I really know how to chop samples up and then reassemble them in it because it seems more difficult than it should be. Can anyone give me some advice? Thx

If you just want to trim samples neatly get a basic editor like Audacity (which is free.)

Editing in Logic is fine for sounds you are using in Logic, but having to launch that beast of a program on your computer just to trim the start point of a kick drum is a bit like using a chainsaw to open a can of beans.

1) double cllick on sample to open up sample in audio editor
2) select region(s) to 'chop' and hit apple R
3) pull down chopped regions from adio window down onto arrange (I've set up a screenset that has both audio window and arrange together)
4) arrange regions in arrange

hope this helps homie

its much more flexible when chopping in the arrangement window using the scissor-tool and the other functions (try crtl and the alt key whilst dragging/pulling the audio objects)

you can always render those files to dedicated audio objects to get away from the original unchopped wave. Or just record the chopped OG version so you can always give the sample a little more time at the beginning if you feel so after lacing the beat.

.Toon

c.toon wrote:its much more flexible when chopping in the arrangement window using the scissor-tool and the other functions (try crtl and the alt key whilst dragging/pulling the audio objects)

you can always render those files to dedicated audio objects to get away from the original unchopped wave. Or just record the chopped OG version so you can always give the sample a little more time at the beginning if you feel so after lacing the beat.

.Toon

u crack me up toon.... ur trying too hard!!! U can do all those increadibly flexible things whilst using the method I described above and chopping audio in the audio editor is more accurate and easier (to play and check the cut)... I've found. To each their own. Peace.

well,...
I can copy an audio object and make 3 differently chopped versions in about 20 seconds. I've never been able to be that flexible w/o destroying the original Audio within the Editor window (The zooms and shit always drove me crazy aswell). Perhaps things changed, but back in 5.0 I dont remember that this was possible in the Editor, as every editing is destructive (yes i know about undo )

Anyhow you said it best, to each his own.
I left the Logic base after it went Mac.
So I don't really care about this too much anymore
.Toon

theassfathasescaped wrote:1) double cllick on sample to open up sample in audio editor
2) select region(s) to 'chop' and hit apple R
3) pull down chopped regions from adio window down onto arrange (I've set up a screenset that has both audio window and arrange together)
4) arrange regions in arrange

hope this helps homie

Yeah and in the audio editor you can also hit "save selection to disk" or something like that. There's a shortcut for that too; makes it hella quick to save some chops. Select the bit you want, hit the shortcut, type a name, done.

And of course you can use "strip silence" in the arrange window; which is basically ReCycle within Logic. This creates a bunch of new regions, which you can all save to disk in one go.

On the other hand, won't you lose that 12bit sound when you sample in logic? How do you get the sounds in the MPC; do you dither to 12bit first and then save to disk? You'd be bypassing the 60's A/D converters that way, meaning you'd get a different sound tha if you sampled straight into the 60.

I never worked with the 60, but it can't be that hard to chop samples in it; I've worked with many different samplers and it usually just takes a little practice to get really quick at chopping. Once you got the chopping locked on the sampler, it'll probably be quicker to chop in the 60 than to go back and forth to Logic.

yo Toon

If im not mistaken Logic was always Mac Based. I remember went Macs ruled the Music & Graphics Industry. It PCs that just got put on.

djdynasty wrote:yo Toon

If im not mistaken Logic was always Mac Based. I remember went Macs ruled the Music & Graphics Industry. It PCs that just got put on.

Macs still run the music industry at least. I've never been to any decent studio that uses PC's in anywhere but the offices.

Yeah use the scissor tool in the arrange window, if you wanna cut in 16ths go to the first 16th subdivision of the sample, hold option and voila, it cuts the sample into 16ths...
(Make sure the resolution of subdivisions is set the same as how fine you wanna cut).
Then If you wanna get a lil closer, double click each chop n tidy up the beginning/ end.
Then highlight all the samples you chopped and press ctrl F.
This will save all samples as their own file...

Also get used to using the lasoo function to zoom in/out.
holding ctrl, hold your mouse button and drag over the file to zoom in,
As above but just click on the spot to zoom out...
Takes a bit of gettin used to but Heaps quicker than ctrl Left/ right/ up/ down on the arrows once you get used to it.

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