For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.

By drumtrack Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:59 am
ah screw you man
just get a freakin life
look: what a huge post you made.... :lol: and what for??
jackass
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By Penfold Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:55 am
Maybe I should have read the continued posts....before posting mine.

By Louie lou Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:08 pm
Man if you can afford to buy good gear, why not. The more gear the more creative. Gear evolves into better things every year. If i can afford to buy the new triton every time it comes out, cool!

If it does fit your needs now, it might fit your needs in the future when you are more familiar with the basics. Some of the great producers pullout them old machines out of their closets to create some new hit all the time.

Show me a producer that only used the same equipment all of their career and I'll shut up. And don't show me somebody new, cause they just got started...once they get the money they will have a full blown studio for sure.
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By Blue Haze Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:06 pm
DS :roll:

But i totally hear u on making the most of your environment, i do the same, before i go running out to buy suttin i might not need i see how i can do it with something I already have. The problem is most people have but dont know they can do with it or even know they have it.

Nice post man i see ya point.- Penfold


True Dat

Keep posting like you doing Big Ben and you will reach some and that is enough thanks for sharing.
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By tanamo00420 Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:30 pm
Penfold wrote:
Benyamin wrote:1. A good cassette deck is probably the best outboard and tracking tool you can own. Most of you have or can borrow it. Doesn't have to be too fancy.

2. This simplifies life quite a bit, as you can stop worrying so much about integrating reason into your whole mad scientist software dream and focus on making music that means something.

3. Learn to use a cassette deck, and learn to recognize gear hype for gear hype. Trying to improve? What's smarter, spending money or using what you have?

4. If you do not frighten yourself during your work, at least sometimes, then you aren't improving and you should quit and go market soft drinks somewhere.

5. Your studio environment reflects your life. If you are not interested in the world around you, and think that the true dream lies in locking yourself away in a castle filled with records, MPC's, and computers, then your music will be boring and you should quit and go market soft drinks somewhere.

I used the mpc for many years and think it's fine. And this is a post about studio environments.



When I started to read this post i wanted to laugh, but then I started to remember the days when there was no studio just a SM58 beta Microphone that Coolio threw out in the crowd when i was 17, of which they cut his set off cause the park closed at 10pm and dela soul cut into his stage time so he god MAD!

Anyway back them all I had was a Mic, Sony & Marantz Tape Deck a Dual Turntable and a King Fisher Amp with a Mic socket. I used to buy instrumentals record my vocals with the instrumentals playing to tape 1 then play to tape 2 with the backing vocals. Those days i made do..

I still have the Sony Tape Deck, its the first one ever made with DOLBY S had it for like nearly 10 years. Mic dont work no more been dropped to many times.

But i totally hear u on making the most of your environment, i do the same, before i go running out to buy suttin i might not need i see how i can do it with something I already have. The problem is most people have but dont know they can do with it or even know they have it.

Nice post man i see ya point.



back in the day, when i first started, all i had was two turns a shitty dj mixer, a tape deck, and a microphone. we would record someone freestyling live while i mixed tracks sure we made some hot ass tapes, and had fun doing it
will i always remember those days? yes
will i ever have the desire to go back to those days? fukk no!!
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By Penfold Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:53 pm
damn i made a whole heap of spelling mistakes!!

anyway... I know this guy that believe thats its the equipment that is going to give him that professional heavily compressed american sound. though in part this is true, I wish he could understand that all that money spent will not get you there in any rush. You got to think of things in stages,

Since I know how to use a EQ on any stereo, I know to some extent how to apply that to single tracks in a mix, how to balance how to be fair. (which I often neglect when it comes to bass) but we start somewhere and work are way up. Buy the equipment if its importantly necessary.
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By Lampdog Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:28 pm
That a good thing when a herb gets out of line, but not when a newcomer wants to drop some knowledge and he came in peace.
That's how I read into it also.

Calling out names gets you nowhere but more BS.
Right

I agree that he really said something very important not only for newcomers, but for the veterans as well.
Right again.

But on the real I don`t think he was trying to change, school, or preach to anyone. Just giving some insight that doesn`t make him foolish. It makes him wise.
Wise indeed.

Every man makes his own decisions we may not always agree that is true especially what is the different between facts and fiction. However we could at less understand the others point of view even if we don`t agree.
This is very true.

If we disgree, then we disagree it still all good. I like what he said it is an enironment an way of thinking.
Is anybody else listening to BH, he's making good points, I don't care, I'll call em like I see em', DRUMTRACK and JAEM stop acting like TOOLS and let people have their say and stop downgrading others opinions.

Like BH explained, I can't MAKE you act mature, it's your choice, but you SHOULD be cordial to someone who is cordial to you.
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By Benyamin Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:40 pm
nice.

Anyway, I would like illustrate my point a bit - really, if someone has a decent place to post a quick short mp3, with some drums that I think you'll want to hear (especially the guy with the comment about the big american compressed sound) then let me know...it'll illustrate the point much better.

By BassLINE Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:56 pm
http://www.yousendit.com

Just upload the file to that site, email the link to yourself and post it on this board.
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By Penfold Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:42 am
Benyamin wrote:nice.

Anyway, I would like illustrate my point a bit - really, if someone has a decent place to post a quick short mp3, with some drums that I think you'll want to hear (especially the guy with the comment about the big american compressed sound) then let me know...it'll illustrate the point much better.


benyamin, sorry i've lost you mate? what u asking?

lampdog, well said..

By Beat God Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:46 am
if u know your equipment then continue to spend. telling someone to stop buying gear is like saying don't get any new records until u have made a track with every sample u have. buy buy buy
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By Penfold Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:04 am
u dont get it do you?
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By Penfold Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:05 am
double post sorry.
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By Beat God Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:59 am
i dont get it cause i have tons of gear and have made tons of money with that gear. right now i am in chicago recording cause of all the gear i bought and what i have made with it in ny. tuesday i will be in miami recording. all thanks to me being a talented gearslut. a sh!tty beatmaker or producer will be sh!tty with or without gear. right now its cool to make beats so everyone is doing it, but most ain't built for this. i hope more and more peole try to be producers, cause the end result will be better and better gear, due to increased sales. it also drives down the prices cause r&d costs gets spread over more units. buy buy buy people
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By Lampdog Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:20 am
Beat God wrote:all thanks to me being a talented gearslut.


NO ONE can knock your hustle for being honest now can they!

haha.