For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.

By Benyamin Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:17 am
http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LI2 ... V9IIJRQWHW

now

you think this sounds budget or huge? how much gear you think this took?

even with the three year old crappy mp3 convertor program...

hmm.

By drumtrack Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:34 am
thx for the drumsounds :mrgreen:
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By dubmunkey Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:41 am
why the **** has everyone jumped on this guy- all he said was sometimes people get too focussed on gear- its **** true- we have all seen that pic of that bird with like every synth in the world in her studio pics but no links to any of her music....

we have all seen newbies ask countles gear based questions when listening to their beats tells you its more than gear they need to improve-

its been said countless times before- this guy says it (perhaps bigs tape up a little too much- who cares?) and gets jumped on....

someone said this is mainly a hiphop forum- it isn't its mainly an mpc forum- even if it was it's no excuse for peeps like Jaem getting all aggro- so you don't agree, who cares? why call him a tool? did he insult you personally- chill out everyone...its a ****' forum after all...

greg

By Benyamin Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:46 pm
no prob, obviously they are twenty times bigger on my end :)
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By Cheech Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:06 pm
drums sound nice but they are more like a rock set than something i would use for a hip hop beat.

but yeah, back to the topic i agree with you!

By elmacaco Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:25 pm
Yall are buggin. Benyamin is on point, beat god is on point. It's all good advice.

On to cassettes. In my car I have a cassette deck, so I busted out some old tapes. then I realized, most of the stuff I played the hell out of was on cassette, on CD most of the stuff would get a few spins then nothing, only a few rare CDs would get heavy rotation without me getting tired of it. Something about tape playback that sounds better than cd, the music feels more alive, like it's different each time, likt it stays new, regardless of noise or freq response. CD's are a shytty format, just like tapes were a shytty format, meand to be portable, vinyl is still alive because cd's are compromised. I'm no audiophile, but seriously, isten to an old tape and then a new CD< the old tape gets me everytime. I just got a 25 year old tape deck/ receiver, and you know, it sounds better than all these mini componant systems I hear at best buy. and I found this in the trash. I forgot about analog tuners, I can get radio stations tuned in much better than with any digital tuner I have ever used cuz of the resolution that's possible. plus, inside the unit there is a big honkin iron antenna that makes radio come in so clear my friends think it's from a cd. No noise, everything comes in amazing, and the system has boom like nothing else Ive heard recently.

And it was trash, someone chucked it cuz the turntable was busted, I just ripped it off the top. Recording stuff to cassette sounds great, it has character, and just bumps nicely.

Also, I don;t know what cassette's yall use, but cassettes are 1/8 of an inch, not 1/4". They still sound great, plus, you can't skip to the next song easily, you gotta listen to it. I'm gonna be messing with cassettes from now on. Benyamin is on point, if you're at home, try recording to a cassette, it can add something to your productions even just to listen back to your beats on something different than your computer or whatever. SInce you can get them cheap or free and more money went into them than your soundcard, you should really give them a shot.

By BassLINE Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:52 pm
^^^Agreed. Analogue is the shit. Straight up and down.

Vinyl and cassette just have a fuller, more organic sound period. Some may dislike the noise that vinyl and cassette introduce to recordings but I find it very pleasing (to an extent). It's just a lot warmer and punchier.

The only thing cd's are good for are their flexibility (being able to rip tracks, share, etc) and durability (back up tracks to CD and they can last way longer than any analogue source even after extensive play). Sound-wise I find them too clean and flat. No soul.

However, like elmacaco, I'm no audiophile. I just like what I like.

By Benyamin Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:41 pm
cool.

All I'm saying is I went the traditional route for years, buying up gear, struggling through stuff, making stuff for sure - but I switched my whole game up and improved more in two weeks than in the last two years, and I get way more flavorful sounds using way less gear, and make way more money. I don't really see the bad side of any of that.

By tdot Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:10 pm
***contacts nasa to put spinners in teeth and on MPC toggle wheel***

By Benyamin Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:29 pm
http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HI0 ... 0ZUZ19JE7D

this is a piece of an old joint I probably will never use. Point is the budget (besides three year old computer + soundcard) for gear to make this crap is exactly ZERO dollars.

No sampler, no samples, no outboard, no keyboards (one soft synth crappy thing), I don't think I actually even did any processing save maybe a bit of compression on something.

Of course, I've gotten way better at this, as far as the muddy bass and what not, and this is one of my bottom of the barrel grooves, but hey.

Free. That's a nice flavor, especially when I calculate expenses vs. costs.

-benyamin

By luvjonz25 Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:13 pm
yeah, sometimes when I have stuff recorded on to tape and play it in my car(on the tape), it sounds a lot more like I had envisioned it.

if you really want to stop spending so much money,
vvv look below vvv
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By dubmunkey Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:34 am
IF ANYONE WANTS EVERY SINGLE SOUND ON THE YAMAHA MOTIF OR KORG TRITON(sampled in .wav), LET ME KNOW, MY BOY SELLS THEM......THANKS
>>>>>>>>>>>

problem with that luvjons is that all those sounds already litter 80% of hiphop tracks out at the moment-

greg

By tdot Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:11 pm
Benyamin wrote:http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HI0M6YES23RC3560ZUZ19JE7D



-benyamin


i think it sounds crap, but hey
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By dubmunkey Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:25 pm
i also have lots of old pieces i'll probably never use which sound shit- whats your point there tdot?

he's already kinda said that already que?

greg

By drumtrack Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:40 pm
yeah so whats tho point of posting it then?
if you have a shitty soundcard and a shitty softsynth then shitty tunes will come out
.. how can you ever get a clear and full sound with a crappy soundcard??