Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
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By Lo Pass Filter Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:13 pm
Although I don't use the MPC 60 anymore, a partner of mine found a old tape I gave him about 3 years ago. I made the beat with an MPC 60 + S950. The quality is dick, but you can still get the essence of the beat.

Check it out at: www.myspace.com/rspctdue - the 60 joint is called - Creme Prince Revival.

While your over there, check out Massive Attack. I through it together early this morning. I think I got a new love in my life, it's called the EPS 16+.

By BassLINE Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:09 pm
"Massive Attack" sounds very familiar for some reason.

But word, that's my vibe right there. Very dope stuff man.

By elmacaco Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:03 pm
I find it's hard to recognise the 60 by sound cuz it can really vary, but it's about the slight punch it adds to drums that is really it's signature.

Dope stuff lo pass, lovin the laid back grooves steez.

on untitled though you should have gone to the number pad when choppin that snare ;)

So Massive attack is all EPS? Nice sound for a 16 bit sampler. :lol:

Lovin the mood of all your tracks man. Keep em comin.
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By Lo Pass Filter Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:57 pm
What do you mean by number pad? Untitled is all SP/S900. Everything is truncated properly. The loose feel is in teh sequencing, not the editing (is that what you were refering too?)

Massive Attack is all EPS indeed. Thiers no outside help, all internal within the EPS including the sequencing. I'm selling all my other sh*t. EPS FO'LIFE.

Anyone need an S900, SP, or MPC 60 holler.

By elmacaco Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:57 pm
there's a click at the end of the snare sample.

at least that's what it sounds like, I was referring to the number pad on the SP for the extra fine chopping. I could be wrong.

Not tryin to dis you or anything man, I love the beat regardless, just lettin you know I'm really listening. :D
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By Lo Pass Filter Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:31 pm
Oh, Oh, Oh.. word yea there is a click your right. Man you know what that is - LOL, thats the metronome. I recorded it with the metronome playing when I was recording haha.

But yea yo, I'm all about the EPS16+. This is the baddest sampler I've ever used straight up. I always had a preminition about it, but I never acted on it. I'm glad I finally did.. It's definately not for everyone, but it's the top shelf for me.
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By powercord Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:38 pm
dope track, real dope
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By Lo Pass Filter Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:45 pm
^Much appreciated bruh.

By BassLINE Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:36 pm
Lo Pass Filter wrote:Oh, Oh, Oh.. word yea there is a click your right. Man you know what that is - LOL, thats the metronome. I recorded it with the metronome playing when I was recording haha.

But yea yo, I'm all about the EPS16+. This is the baddest sampler I've ever used straight up. I always had a preminition about it, but I never acted on it. I'm glad I finally did.. It's definately not for everyone, but it's the top shelf for me.


So what would you say puts it above all of the samplers that you use? Is it the sound you prefer? Is it the sample editing (is it better than the MPC series in this regard)? Or just overall feel in general?

I was curious because I've been thinking of just ditching my MPC-60, rack sampler and keyboard and just using one workstation exclusively. My only problem is that I love the rock-solid sequencing and sample editing power of my 60 (not to mention the warm sound and solid SCSI functioning).

I like to have a minimal setup since the more stuff I have the more distracted I get from making music (I always feel guilty if I'm not incorporating all of my gear into a track). But I haven't been able to find something that has a MPC-solid sequencer and deep, rich sound.

I'd like to hear what you have to say about this.

By PerpetualNoob Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:51 pm
powercord wrote:dope track, real dope
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By powercord Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:55 pm
PerpetualNoob wrote:
powercord wrote:dope track, real dope



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By powercord Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:59 pm
Lo Pass Filter wrote:What do you mean by number pad? Untitled is all SP/S900. Everything is truncated properly. The loose feel is in teh sequencing, not the editing (is that what you were refering too?)

Massive Attack is all EPS indeed. Thiers no outside help, all internal within the EPS including the sequencing. I'm selling all my other sh*t. EPS FO'LIFE.

Anyone need an S900, SP, or MPC 60 holler.


wanna buy a eps16+ rack with scsi?
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By Lo Pass Filter Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:19 am
BassLine - You hit it on the head son. I am tired of using all these machines midi'd up. Simplicity is essential. Every oppurtunity I get to make something easier for myself in respects to music, I take it. I've been a die hard SP user for damn near 4 years. I've been a S950 user for 5 years. And an MPC 60 user for 4 years. I bought an EP16 3 years ago, used it a few times, dug the sounds, but wasn't into the interface.. the keys kinda overwhelmed me. So I sold it, and got another SP-1200 and been on that since. Well, I caught another EPS last week, and decided, man, im'a test it out (for sales purposes), and see what it can do. So I got up with my man whos a long time ASR user (9 yrs), and had him step me through the sequencing (cause it's mad different then any other machines sequencer). Once I grasped the fundamentals (took me about 15 minutes) it was over with.

The EPS has SCSI (thought I prefer 3.5"), internal rom (so you can save sounds internally - ie. your favorite drum kits etc), memory expander (51 secs. at 22.6khz - what I sample at), optional 8 output expander, which gives you ten total outputs (stero + 8 mono), etc. So in respects to interfacing in function, it's loaded to the trim with sh*t. It's got built in filters that are used on the song Massive Attack (theres drums on that loop, but I filtered them out). Internal FX, Amp functions, (3) envelopes, all types of sh*t. This is a machine you can own for a few years and still not master every function. The sequencer is rock solid. I don't give a fu*k what anyone says. Ensoniqs sequencers are stupid nice. They hold grooves extremely well. And you can mimic all types of grooves. They are a bit "foward" sounding, but never mechanical when programmed right. As far as I can see, it's rock solid. No glitches etc. It's mad weird, I'll say that, in respects to how you use it, but once you get it, it's like the most intuitive sequencer you ever used. See the EPS is like, you play your drums freestyle without QUANT. first! So all your patterns are recorded intially freestyle (thiers no other way, it doesn't allow you to lock up a time correct then play..). Thats whats bug about it. So you play free hand, then, once you stop the sequence on a even bar measure (like the 4 click on the 4th bar lets say), It'll ask do you wish to keep this sequence? You can select yes or no, or hit play to preview what you've just done. If you stop after the 4th click, it will loop up what you just did perfectly for 4 bars, and repeat, if you went over, it will loop **** up cause it trys to play bar 5.. You can delete bar 5 after accepting it, or just redo it. So basically, the EPS exposes weak cats on sequencing. Cause you have to play shit real tight to begin with. Once you've played your little sequence, lets say it's just a little bit off. Like a few kicks are to spaced or whatever. You go to a command screen and select quanitize track. You can now quant. the whole track, or just individual notes! Mad ill. Anyhow, say i'm double timing, so, I lock it up at 1/8t (since i've double the time, it's like 1/16t), and hit enter. Now it processes the track to be lock up. I can then preview it before accepting. So say I accept and execute officially. Now, when I play the sequence back, it's like loose like my freestyle pattern except now it's just slightly more phase locked. So it's real swingy, but locked up nice too. And that my friend, is why this machine is the best sh*t I ever used. Straight up. Illest sequencer hands down. Kicks the MPC/SP sequencer to the curb all day. As far as chopping goes, I dont feel like explaining the process in-depth, but, basically all 61 keys can be a chop if memory will permit it! It's very simple to do, and quick because you use the data slider to edit.

Chill-
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By Lo Pass Filter Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:20 am
To each is own though, i'm certain this machine ain't for everyone. But I came up listening to Mobb Deep.. Havocs production played a huge role in what got me involved in the music side of things.. From MC'ing to Production. It's only right I ended up on the EP. I'm more of a loop based producer anyhow, not really a chopping fan. I'll chop a long loop into a few parts to fit a pattern, but I don't go outta my way to chop shit up just because i'm trying to disguise something. I think alota cats get outa hand with that sh*t cause they wanna disguise the melody.. but then they ruin the vibe of the loop.

But for what, $450 I can get a loaded EPS16? You just can't front on that man.
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By powercord Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:30 am
Lo Pass Filter wrote:
But for what, $450 I can get a loaded EPS16? You just can't front on that man.


ill sell u mine 4 300