Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
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By Lo Pass Filter Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:37 am
Keys only G. If you got all the bells and whistles (keys version) I'll swoop it.
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By powercord Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:39 am
Lo Pass Filter wrote:Keys only G. If you got all the bells and whistles (keys version) I'll swoop it.


rack is where its at, **** havin madd keyboards...i just got a controller and racks...thats the way to fly,......mmmmmm...voyager rackkkkkkk
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By Lo Pass Filter Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:43 am
Word. I need a loaded keyboard with the 8 output expander. Thanks anyways. Trying to get a way from midi, thats the whole point.
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By powercord Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:45 am
Lo Pass Filter wrote:Word. I need a loaded keyboard with the 8 output expander. Thanks anyways. Trying to get a way from midi, thats the whole point.


rack got 8 outputs built in ;)

By BassLINE Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:22 am
Lo Pass Filter wrote:To each is own though, i'm certain this machine ain't for everyone. But I came up listening to Mobb Deep.. Havocs production played a huge role in what got me involved in the music side of things.. From MC'ing to Production. It's only right I ended up on the EP. I'm more of a loop based producer anyhow, not really a chopping fan. I'll chop a long loop into a few parts to fit a pattern, but I don't go outta my way to chop **** up just because i'm trying to disguise something. I think alota cats get outa hand with that sh*t cause they wanna disguise the melody.. but then they ruin the vibe of the loop.

But for what, $450 I can get a loaded EPS16? You just can't front on that man.


Thanks for breakin it down for me bruh. Really appreciate it.

But yeah, midi can be a pain in the ass. I'm trying to get more focused now and I feel that having this extra stuff is hurting more than it's helping. Wish I was more like Something Like That, his studio is STACKED. But I couldn't deal with all that gear. I'd be too busy staring at it and admiring it than actually using it. :wink:

It's going to be VERY hard letting my MPC60 go cuz I LOVE it but it doesn't do everything I need it to do (ie looping, filtering) which is why I needed other "stuff" which led to this problem of too much other "stuff".

I gotta do some more soul searching before I make the final decision. Peace.

By BassLINE Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:13 am
Yo, one more question. Does the EPS16+ have a function like the MPC's note repeat that allows you to do things like drum rolls?
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By tbiggz Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:36 am
no.
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By Lo Pass Filter Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:44 am
Nope, but you can just event edit rolls (ie. step edit), which is mad simple to do on the EPS.
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By Something Like That Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:47 am
So Low Pass...

You are selling your SP, S900/50, MP60 and everything else to rock the EPS16+...guess you won't be needing that Juno then...

By BassLINE Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:05 am
Cool. Thanks guys.
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By Lo Pass Filter Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:07 am
Na Juno is still nessaccary. She get back to you yet?

btw. Check out my MySpace again, www.myspace.com/rspctdue

I put an alternate version of the "Massive Attack" beat up. Give me some feedback.

By BassLINE Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:12 am
Did you put extra reverb on the drums or something? They sound too tinny and thin now. I prefer the other version where they were chunkier.
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By Lo Pass Filter Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:23 am
It's completely different. Resampled differently. Certain fx type on the melody, different reverb on the drums, different frequency filtering.
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By Lo Pass Filter Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:23 am
"sound too tinny" - perfect 8)

By elmacaco Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:25 pm
Yo Bassline, you're buggin, if you ditch the 60 you will surely regret it, especially if you go with another sequencer. If you love the sequencing and sample editing on it, there is no reason to ditch it because it doesn't do everything, part of the reason you can enjoy the sequencing and sample editing is because of all the stuff they left out.

Frankly,I love midi, but using "all this stuff" takes a bit of organization, and wise purchases. Not everyone can design their own studio, most people that do tend to do it over time and make lots of mistakes. The most common one I've seen? Sellin the 60 after loving it. The thing that is great about midi and the 60 is that you can control everything with the 60 and not lose any functions of the 60. On most other sequencers you lose one internal track when you control external gear (SP, EPS,) the 60 has 99 tracks, unbelieveable, even new sequencers dont come with that kind of power.

The point is to pair your 60 with a rack or keyboard that does what you need and learn that. I personally find that having more than 3 samplers is a waste because you can really only get deep with 2 most of the time, and the third gets les rotation and time dedicated to it, then any more just divide up your attention even more. Unless you use them individually for their interface like Lopass does with the EPS and the SP 1200.

If all the midi gear is distracting then pare it down, but you'll be in for a rude awakening if you like the 60 and get an EPS without having used it first. Like Lo Pass said, it isn;t for everybody.

The point is, no matter what else you get, the 60 can handle it easily, you know and love the interface, you write your pieces on it, no new learning curves, then you get other samplers and just focus on their sound capability and you don;t have to worry about the sequence side of it.

Things can change around the 60 constantly but you are never left clueless cuz it just makes any other peice of gear submit!!

Lo Pass, why don;t you go with an ASR 10? That was the cuulmination of the ensoniq line and they completed the things they attempted to do in the eps 16. it's still a good piece, but basically a ASR Jr.

And that's a sequencer only a mother could love ;) You can get it to work and get used to it, but I know guys who use the ASR sequencer only and have been for years and they still complain about it, even though they got no MP or anything other to sequence with.