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By Lo Pass Filter Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:06 pm
"Excuses when MONEY is on the line!!! REAL BIT@H SH!T!!! And the Gathering fits your boys crowd more than mines. Check the site: www.thephillygathering.com"

Na, i'm just not a sucker. Thats like me hostin a battle for us in my home town, and telling you to put money up. You'd be fool, not a ****.

"I thought hiphop wasn't about color??? Corny ass muthafuka... "

It shouldn't be, but thats how **** up sh*t is now. Btw. you were the one kicking that racist bullsh*t before, and still are.. just proven my point to a T.

"PS - And the last time I checked your boy doesn't PLAY drums, so they didn't STEAL anything. Your boy gripped something off vinyl (which some say is stealing) so who stole what??? U can't cry about sounds when you didn't create them..."

Kill that weak argument. If you been down with hip-hop as long as you say you have, then you know biting another mans drum kits is some hoe sh*t.
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By docmartin120 Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:29 pm
"I thought hiphop wasn't about color??? Corny ass muthafuka... "

Lo Pass Filter wrote:It shouldn't be, but thats how **** up sh*t is now. Btw. you were the one kicking that racist bullsh*t before, and still are.. just proven my point to a T.


Hiphop was ALWAYS about race son!! Sorry you didn't get the memo but if something is created for any reason, years going by doesn't change the foundation of it. If the KKK were tryin' to help people of color in 30 years would they be embraced?? Hell naw!!! Don't try to change why Hiphop was created, pussy!!!

"PS - And the last time I checked your boy doesn't PLAY drums, so they didn't STEAL anything. Your boy gripped something off vinyl (which some say is stealing) so who stole what??? U can't cry about sounds when you didn't create them..."

Lo Pass Filter wrote:Kill that weak argument. If you been down with hip-hop as long as you say you have, then you know biting another mans drum kits is some hoe sh*t.


Actually many of the first hiphop songs had the SAME beats (nothing different). You use biting in the WRONG context. What you are talking about is sampling NOT biting. And how did they get the kits? Did you give them to them? Because if your talking about breaks, your CRAZY. Because breaks can be got by anybody. Also your boys beats ALL sound like something done before. I let someone at a studio hear them and they said he was a "beat-biter". So again who's biting who???
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By Boogie Man Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:28 pm
Also your boys beats ALL sound like something done before. I let someone at a studio hear them and they said he was a "beat-biter". So again who's biting who???[/quote]

Confirmed...I was listening...I thought the exact same thing, biting beats, .and I can't lie...Drumatic has skills...I give credit where credit is due...but it was like listening to M-Boogie....and if you know who M-Boogie is, you know he bit Premiers style to a motherfvckin T....Drumatics has sick beats for the mid 90s...cool...I respect that, but you can't get me all hyped up on something I've heard millions of times already....It's like being a fan of "Three's Company" and then having to sit through "Three's a Crowd"...kind of a poor analogy, but I'm sure you get the point...I've heard Drumatics style already enough times already to know that he isn't original in his ideas...simple as that...not a diss, just the truth...
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By Lo Pass Filter Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:45 pm
"Hiphop was ALWAYS about race son!! Sorry you didn't get the memo but if something is created for any reason, years going by doesn't change the foundation of it. If the KKK were tryin' to help people of color in 30 years would they be embraced?? Hell naw!!! Don't try to change why Hiphop was created, pussy!!! "

- You don't even make sense half the time you speak. Slow down your thought process. What point are you tring to make? That your a racist black man who hates on whites because they're white? And that you agree my man won't catch a fair one in your part of town cause' he's white? I already pointed that out, so what additional point are you trying to get across? I already took you to the moon and back about your flawed views on race and religon in a older thread. Review what I said there, let it sink in, and move on. I'm not sure what memo you got, but Hip-Hop was never a race thing where I was from. It was a political plat form for all. Including racist such as yourself.

"Actually many of the first hiphop songs had the SAME beats (nothing different). You use biting in the WRONG context. What you are talking about is sampling NOT biting. And how did they get the kits? Did you give them to them? Because if your talking about breaks, your CRAZY. Because breaks can be got by anybody. Also your boys beats ALL sound like something done before. I let someone at a studio hear them and they said he was a "beat-biter". So again who's biting who???"

- So cause someone affiliated with you said my man was a beat-biter, it's a wrap - lol? Next.. :arrow:

They got kits by BOOSTING them from someone he confided in, and lent to. When they got called out on it, they played dumb and arrogant by not owning up to the biting, and giving him credit where credit was due.

Heres the final break down for ALL YOU HERBS who use the same justification Doc does about getting samples from breaks, and your stealing from those artist, blah, blah, blah. If you sample a break or sample, and chop it up, on your machine, and put your touch on it, with your EQ skills, your FX, your mixing, and then someone takes it without permission and uses it.. YOU ARE A BITER. Your boostin' someone elses sh*t, and thats a crime to be dealth with. Like I said, I seen cats throw blows over boostin sound disks that someone left behind in a studio session, that someone else grabs and then uses on they're own track without permission. Sh*t is real.
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By Boogie Man Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:51 pm
Lo Pass Filter wrote:Heres the final break down for ALL YOU HERBS who use the same justification Doc does about getting samples from breaks, and your stealing from those artist, blah, blah, blah. If you sample a break or sample, and chop it up, on your machine, and put your touch on it, with your EQ skills, your FX, your mixing, and then someone takes it without permission and uses it.. YOU ARE A BITER. Your boostin' someone elses sh*t, and thats a crime to be dealth with. Like I said, I seen cats throw blows over boostin sound disks that someone left behind in a studio session, that someone else grabs and then uses on they're own track without permission. Sh*t is real.


so is JLos producer biting the BeatNuts??? Or is it acceptable because her producer just happened to have the same record??
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By drumat!c Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:53 am
Ay look man. Anybody that heard King Tech interview Ju Ju on the Wake Up Show knows that he was F'n pissed about that bullsh!t. That was a poor example......

Why don't I just dismiss myself from this forum altogether because it seems like I cause more trouble than it's worth and nobody needs to be wasting time on my ass.....go back to makin' beats do your thing get your money and your props and enjoy your careers.

I'm off this joint for real Peace.
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By Lo Pass Filter Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:49 am
Boogie - Yet another analytical party joins the brigade. What is so hard to understand about what I said? I'm not tripping off people using the same samples, thats your boy Doc. I'm trippin' on cats boostin' other peoples drum kits, by snatchin open snares, loops, and/or stabs off another mans Hip-Hop record. Thats some faggit ass sh*t. Just like flippin' rare breaks of comps. and actin' like you got deep crates.
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By Boogie Man Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:56 am
Lo Pass Filter wrote:Boogie - Yet another analytical party joins the brigade. What is so hard to understand about what I said? I'm not tripping off people using the same samples, thats your boy Doc. I'm trippin' on cats boostin' other peoples drum kits, by snatchin open snares, loops, and/or stabs off another mans Hip-Hop record. Thats some faggit ass sh*t. Just like flippin' rare breaks of comps. and actin' like you got deep crates.


just say you're a purist f@g in plain english.... everyone doesn't dig, it's actually fcking boring...not everyone cares to have "deep crates"....every producer isn't a dj....

now if someone is straight up stealing other peoples DISKS like KW, I frown on that...but a sample is a sample is a sample is a sample....our machines come with functions to twist them in so many ways...I can take any snare you give me and make it sound completely different...It's what you do with the sample, not where you got it...
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By Lo Pass Filter Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:16 am
Boogie - I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'M A HIP-HOP PURIST, simple and plain. Thats me yo. Thats something I take pride in, i'm certainly not ashamed.

I can RESPECT what your saying Boogie, i'm open minded enough to understand your point of view, I don't agree with your view, but I can dig it.
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By docmartin120 Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:26 am
There's No Hope for this Lo Filther dude... :? Son you are plain CORNY!!! And the realist thing I can do to hurt YOUR feelings is to NOT even egknowledge you, so from now on I won't...
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By Lo Pass Filter Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:15 am
^Yo whatever man, just keeping runnin' your mouth, thats the only thing you do professionally.

By fobedafied Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:30 am
ouch!

hiphop was built on racism? and has nothing to do with vinyl? damn, some peops really should just admit that theyve outgrown hiphop... i bet they would already if it werent so popular now... :?

digging is boring? shit, PRESETS are boring... i dont claim to be some crazy dope beatmaking og from the old school or whatever makes you guys feel better about yourself, but id rather spend time digging and finding sounds then programming some sequences with presets...

just me...

By elmacaco Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:43 am
thank you fopbe for being a voice of reason.

Please, someone just shut down all threads here for a while.
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By Lampdog Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:01 pm
Where tha F was I at, I have NEVEr noticed this before, why all this sudden
surge of beef lately in the 60/3000 forums?
1k and 60/3k peeps are vicious and hardcord about their gear
but dang peeps. C'mon.