mixers + your beats ?

i was just wondering if any of you use mixers to run sounds through and tweak before sampling them. i heard this is useful if u wanna add effects, take a high hat out or kick etc...and if so what kind of mixer do u use?

First off, you can't take out sounds. The only possible way to do that is if the sound you want to get rid of is completely panned to the left or right side of the sample, then you would just have to sample the opposite side.

Lots of people EQ their source before they sample it. If you want to add effects, you can do that after you sample it. I'm using a DJ mixer right now, but I want to get one of those big mixer boards.

Thers no point EQ'ing before you sample!

why would you do it?? maybe do a little filtering, to bring out some bass in a sample, or to bring out the high end in a sample! but dont bother Eq'ing, what happens if you do your 'EQ'ing' record it, play it back in your song and the sample sounds shit??? your f*cked!!!! thers no way of undoing it! (ther is, but its long)!

dont buy a mixer if you jus wonna filter things or use EQ's and effects! only buy one if your dealing witth multiple channels of audio simultaniously!!! and even then, i wouldnt suggest one, because many 'entry level' or 'semi professional mixers' are sh*t!!! just record into your DAW and then do any EQing processing during mixdown obviously!!! spend the money on some nice outboard gear (comrpessors, filters, preamps) not on a mixer!!!

Fact--> 90% of people who buy Behringer products wish they hadnt!

That statement above this post is kinda iffy. One thing overlooked about using outboard either pre or post is that analog provides some 'life' for your recordings. Done in moderation, there is absolutely nothing wrong with EQing on every pass. Either going into a sampler, out into software, a board, whatever. I wouldn't over do it because as mentioned above you can f*ck things up royally, but there are some things that actually benefit from pre EQing.

For example if you are sampling hats from a somewhat muddy drumbreak on wax into an MPC you could either use the EQ on your DJ mixer to boost the hi's a bit and cut all the lows. Or take the DJ mixer output an put in on a channel strip on a board and do the same thing but more precise with the whole spectrum (mids, etc.). I myself like things to sound more wide, open and crispy so I keep things more tailored in my mixes. Some people like a muddy hat with lows that eats into your headroom and clashes with the other sounds in your mix...It all as with anything just comes down to personal taste. It's good to set general goals in terms of what you are trying to achieve before diving in head first and trying to make due after the fact. My 2 cents.

THANX FOR THE INFO EVERYONE..

Yo L.Tombstone man you gotta valid points but.....


you sed - "taking out the lows", that more filtering man, not EQ'ing!!! your right even so, but i also sed that!

you mentioned "boosting the highs" on a hat before you record, but why would you bother doing that?? thers no point!!!

why EQ or boost for the sake of it when you have nothing to reference the Hi Hat against or when you cant asses it in context to the recorded mix??

dont just think, "ohh! its a Hi-Hat, i better boost the highs for the sake of it" record it how it is, then in mixdown think "hmmmmm! the hats are sounding a bit dull! ill boost some of the highs on them"!!!

but undastandably man, we all do things our own way!

ya get me??

RoB

I feel what your sayin, what I was gettin at is that for some cats it might help to pre EQ sounds depending on what you're working with. For example I just got me an MPC60 and it has no filters at all. Matter of fact the only filters MPC's have are the resonance and lo-pass filter.

IMO sometimes I need more boost than that, so pre EQing is a cool option if you want more definition out of a sound at a particular frequency. I am probabaly more of a sound-sculpting fanatic than most so in most cases, for the average head, you are right. I mean for real try sampling hats from drum breaks into a 60. That said kicks and hats are my primary focus here. Everything else pretty much sounds good as is for the most part. I def. respect where you are coming from .

L. Tombstone wrote: Matter of fact the only filters MPC's have are the resonance and lo-pass filter.

I should just stop using an MPC and get an EPS 16+

Yeah I couldnt agree more the filters on that 16+ are ridiclous.

btw, pre sample EQing is very usefull on one hit sounds where you know that heavy EQing is necessary. Kinda like throwin away the trash cuz you know its not needed later.

Eqing before sampling helps alot. Good example, with drums, turning up the low end on a kick sometimes changes the character of the kick entirely. Doing it with different types of sounds can bring out some interesting results, then after you sample it and you record and mix your beat you can eq it even further to tweak the sound to your liking.