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By Fresh_Dave Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:52 am
hey, i wanna buy a drum machine but at the moment i cant justify forking out the cash for an MPC considering ive never made a beat in my life.. so does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be a good first machine to get... keep in mind, money IS a factor
thanks
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By pt3r Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:08 am
If you don't have the cash for a drummachine yet, use a tracker program to improve your beat making skills until you have the money to buy an MPC. Or download a demo verison of fruity loops. My 2 cents.
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By samuraisam Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:52 am
Fresh_Dave wrote:hey, i wanna buy a drum machine but at the moment i cant justify forking out the cash for an MPC considering ive never made a beat in my life.. so does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be a good first machine to get... keep in mind, money IS a factor
thanks


give a budget for us to play around with.

if you have ~600 US you could easily get a second hand mpc 1000, which is really good for beginners and even serves professionals equally well.
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By M.ic P.ro C.rusher Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:24 pm
Kinda on the same note, but for a much younger beginnner...

Any ideas on a drum machine for a 6-10 year old to learn basic sequencing and drum patterns? On-board sounds a must, as sampling will come later on, just something really basic, prolly $50-$100 on eBay. Holla back.
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By Fresh_Dave Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:47 am
hey yall cheers for the feedback but hey i bit the bullet & put a down payment on a mpc1000 today! should have it in a couple weeks!
peace

By grimaybeats555 Sat Aug 20, 2005 7:26 am
M.ic P.ro C.rusher wrote:Kinda on the same note, but for a much younger beginnner...

Any ideas on a drum machine for a 6-10 year old to learn basic sequencing and drum patterns? On-board sounds a must, as sampling will come later on, just something really basic, prolly $50-$100 on eBay. Holla back.


Check how much a Alesis SR-16 would cost on ebay. I really like that drum machine. I wish it had sampling the sequencer is very mpc'ish. Before I got the equipment I have now I was using that and a casio sk-1.
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By samuraisam Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:24 pm
Fresh_Dave wrote:hey yall cheers for the feedback but hey i bit the bullet & put a down payment on a mpc1000 today! should have it in a couple weeks!
peace


excellent investment!
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By samuraisam Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:25 pm
M.ic P.ro C.rusher wrote:Kinda on the same note, but for a much younger beginnner...

Any ideas on a drum machine for a 6-10 year old to learn basic sequencing and drum patterns? On-board sounds a must, as sampling will come later on, just something really basic, prolly $50-$100 on eBay. Holla back.


roland r8 human rythm machine.
it'll prolly cost 150 ish. but you could probably find one for less.
excellent investment for both your child and you. tonnes of onboard sounds. i never tried out the sequencer function i tried on my music teachers r8. but i heard its pretty damn good.

By pad-ophiliac Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:47 pm
Fresh_Dave wrote:hey yall cheers for the feedback but hey i bit the bullet & put a down payment on a mpc1000 today! should have it in a couple weeks!
peace


good choice
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By cre8tive Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:54 pm
The BOSS DR-5 is a wonderful first drum machine! 512 instruments, and 4 track sequencer.
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By enotide Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:46 pm
Fresh_Dave wrote:hey yall cheers for the feedback but hey i bit the bullet & put a down payment on a mpc1000 today! should have it in a couple weeks!
peace


You're on your way once that shows up.
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By DFENS Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:02 pm
good investment there, you wont regret it. :wink:
By cashstill Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:25 pm
Its like this the MPC 1000 compared to MPC 2000XL

The main improvements of the MPC 1000 over the 2000XL are as follows:

1. Smaller, lighter and more portable
2. Re-sampling of the audio outputs
3. Normalising
4. USB connection to computers - allows easy transfer of sounds from computers
5. More filters
6. More memory capacity(128mb)
7. Effects as standard
8. More varied array of internal effects
9. Total of 6 outputs plus digital as standard
10. Compact Flash storage

On the downside, the following XL features are missing from the MPC 1000.

1. Sequencer capacity cut from 300,000 to 100,000
2. No timestretch
3. No MTC sync
4. No SCSI port
5. No way to hook up an external storage device like CDROM or Zip
6. No sample reverse
7. Velocity sensitive attack and decay params are gone (as far as I can see)
8. Using 2000XL programs will only keep basic pad assignment, all other parameters will need to be re-programmed one-by-one.
9. No support for any audio file type except WAV (MPC2000, MPC3000, S1000/3000 need to be converted to WAV first).
10. Programs made on the 1000 will NOT load into an MPC2000XL (sounds will)
11. No tilting screen
12. Can only have 6 outs, not 10 like the XL.

Worth Buying?

If this is to be your first MPC, then yes, it's great value for money. If you intend using commercial sounds with it (sample CDROMs etc) then you'll really need to have a computer as well, otherwise you'll have difficulty getting those sounds into the MPC 1000 - it doesn't have any way of connecting an external storage device, as the USB port can only be used to connect it to a master USB device such as a computer.

If you are an existing MPC2000Xl user, then it's a hard choice. I really don't see this as a replacement for the XL, it's too similar in features (it's basically got an XL operating system). Linking up to a computer is now nice and easy, so that's a plus, but the fact that all your PGMs will need to be re-programmed pad-by-pad is a complete nightmare! If you use sample CDs, the only way you can load the sounds into an MPC 1000 is to copy them to your computer first (if they are in Akai format, they'll have to be converted to WAV). And if you are wanting to share your programs with your friend who has an XL - forget it, they wont work in his machine (WRONG FILE FORMAT is all the XL has to say about this).

If you're trying to decide whether or not to get the MPC 1000 or an MPC 4000, it's not really a fair comparision. The MPC4000 is in a different league - it features a fully fledged sampler, a more robust set of sequencer features, AkSys support, use of external drives, plus dozens of other pro features. Basically these two machines are aimed at very different markets. I think the MPC 1000 will appeal to the live user due to its small size, the MPC 4000 is designed more as a studio workhorse.

NOTE: I personally use the MPC 2000XL as the Center Piece of my Hip Hop and R&B Music Production.

Sequencer, Sampler, Midi Master, ....etc.


If the files you want to load up are standard certified 16 bit WAV files yes you can load them into the MPC and assign them to pads.

The easiest way to do the above is to purchase a program called MPC EDITOR from www.midicase.com

It simulates the MPC environment on a PC so you can easily organize samples / assign them to pads and create programs.


Fresh_Dave wrote:hey, i wanna buy a drum machine but at the moment i cant justify forking out the cash for an MPC considering ive never made a beat in my life.. so does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be a good first machine to get... keep in mind, money IS a factor
thanks