Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By ThundaKatz Production Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:15 am
I have alot of nice kicks and snares ripped from vinyl. But i dont' kno how to make the kicks sound loud and punchy. Does anybody get wat i'm saying? If so could anybody give a tuturial or some shit, i would appreciate it. I'll throw somebody a sample or pack or sumethin if ya want
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By mikettm Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:34 am
you have to filter it try filter page on the manual hoped that helped but thats the main thing about recording from records the worm sounds




























no wheres my samples back :roll: lol just playing
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By bhunt Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:54 am
you have to layer them and make them thick and fat. and use eq to bring up the low in kick's and the mids in the high. Resample and keep going from there.
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By ThundaKatz Production Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:58 am
ok. Now don't crucify me for this. But how the hell do u layer and with what program?? :lol:

By ONE Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:00 am
ThundaKatz Production wrote:ok. Now don't crucify me for this. But how the hell do u layer and with what program?? :lol:


each 1k has 4 layers in the pads right?!!
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By LaJProd Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:45 am
ONE wrote:each 1k has 4 layers in the pads right?!!


Do they really?...New to my 1k and don't know if they do or not!!!!

By ONE Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:48 am
LaJProd wrote:
ONE wrote:each 1k has 4 layers in the pads right?!!


Do they really?...New to my 1k and don't know if they do or not!!!!


:shock:

hahaha

Yeah it does. if you go into the prgram screen you can load up 4 samples in banks 1-4 for each pad, so that when you hit the pad, all three samples play at once. You can adjust the pitch and volume of each layer.
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By colincolin Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:20 am
- compression!

layers work/ have their purpose, -- but getting punch out of a sample is basicly compressions job -- im not sure how i would use the mpc's internal compression to effect the samples but if you can get them onto a computer than that is a great way to fine tune the stuff --- compression is difficult to get right - real moniters would help alot -- and it takes practice -- but it will allow you to make the samples POP at the right moment - and limiting obviously is not the same deal -- a good snappy compressor will have an attack and decay that will allow you to find that little pop -- compression is great stuff --idont use it enough either! (thats said useing too much compression is really terribe as well:P)
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By djobserv Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:41 am
eq eq eq ! eq'ing makes sht super punchy loud well that about all that i do to make my sht sound a little better.
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By mikettm Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:12 pm
how about 16level and put it on tune?or u can layer it

hope that helped
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By Antonym Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:43 pm
also remember to try different sounds, not just kicks - layer a real bassy bongo underneath a 909 and then raise the decay if it needs it. this creates a more percussion esque sound.

By The Beat Conductor Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:22 pm
If you want your drums to sound nice, EQ them. If you want your drums to sound punchy, compress them. If you want your drums to sound nice and punchy, EQ and compress them.
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By Cheech Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:24 pm
eq is more important than compression, at least in pre-production (which is basically what most of us are doing anyway). i always eq on the way in, because i know how i want the sound to sound.


equing, filtering and layering - if used right - will get your samples to punch. i've never used a compressor in my beat making setup (other than compressing the whole finished beat, but that's a whole another story..) but you can come visit me and i'll show you some kicks that can punch a hole in your chest! (i'm just playing tho... i don't really want any of you ugly mofos coming over hahaha)

of course you can get your beat to sound even nicer if you know how and when to apply compression, but i'm tired of hearing people talk about compression like it's the holy grail of beatmaking.


and the obvious: it all starts from the sample - if the sample isn't all that, then it's not going to be all that.

By Beat God Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:11 am
cheech what compressor r u using cause most hip hop i have seen recorded gets compressed to death and if u look at dance music those kicks r sometimes triple compressed. and if u r using one shots chances r they have been compressed already, so if u didn't record the instrument yourself then u can't be sure that they didn't use compression. as i said in the post about eq, it is more to correct problems with program material. compression makes program material stand out because the compressor takes a peak defined by the user and lowers that signal acording to the setting, then raises the wole level by a defined amount. so if u have a kick by itself with no interaction with another instrument u wouldn't need eq cause there wouldn't be any reason to get rid of a competing frequency. now if u have a kick on its own, compression would still be effective cause the punch will be more evident and isn't reliant on other sounds to be distinguished. this point is illustrated with the art of both. when u eq u have to have the whole mix up while working on a single track or u will be doing it blindly unless u r using eq as an effect. with compession u solo that instrument and compress until u get the right punch and then mix to taste.