Talk about the music biz - marketing, promotions, contract law, copyright etc...

By pad-ophiliac Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:50 am
GRMM D wrote:is it possible that you can bring your equipment to court to prove it?


yes, thats possible but like sparq said, you can back-date your shit just as easy so it won't hold up in court of law.
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By docmartin120 Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:09 pm
pad-ophiliac wrote:the arrangment and the beat are one in the same. when you copyright something, you are claiming it as yours. at that point you can "distribute" but not "sell", it gets tricky when you want to start making money off of your sample based productions. that **** won't stop me from husslin mine b/c this **** won't effect most of us anyway. first thing they will do is slap you with an cease & desist order and then they'll investigate to see if its worth their time to sue you. what are they gonna take from me, i aint got **** to begin with. i wouldn't worry about it unless you start movin 20k+ outta your trunk. my .02, take it or leave it.


Stay up on the laws fam, they change frequently. Yeah when I wasn't making money off music I felt the same way, until records of cease & desist files on me from 3 years before came up and I was CLOSELY watched for the first 20 beats I sold to labels. And those files are NEVER destroyed. So it maybe cool for you now, but if you ever do get on just remember that it's ALWAYS better to handle business like a business...

By pad-ophiliac Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:10 pm
docmartin120 wrote:
pad-ophiliac wrote:the arrangment and the beat are one in the same. when you copyright something, you are claiming it as yours. at that point you can "distribute" but not "sell", it gets tricky when you want to start making money off of your sample based productions. that **** won't stop me from husslin mine b/c this **** won't effect most of us anyway. first thing they will do is slap you with an cease & desist order and then they'll investigate to see if its worth their time to sue you. what are they gonna take from me, i aint got **** to begin with. i wouldn't worry about it unless you start movin 20k+ outta your trunk. my .02, take it or leave it.


Stay up on the laws fam, they change frequently. Yeah when I wasn't making money off music I felt the same way, until records of cease & desist files on me from 3 years before came up and I was CLOSELY watched for the first 20 beats I sold to labels. And those files are NEVER destroyed. So it maybe cool for you now, but if you ever do get on just remember that it's ALWAYS better to handle business like a business...


what laws have changed? 3yr old cease and desist orders? what, did you blatently disregard them? great, you were "CLOSELY" watched. were you ever actually sued? whats you arguement?
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By docmartin120 Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:47 pm
pad-ophiliac wrote:
what laws have changed? 3yr old cease and desist orders? what, did you blatently disregard them? great, you were "CLOSELY" watched. were you ever actually sued? whats you arguement?


Whats with the attitude? No one was saying you were wrong. I just stated that it's better to treat that situation like you are going to "make it" in the industry, thats all... And YES being "WATCHED" in this industry can be your "End Career." Read the copyright laws, every 6 months or so sample clearence laws are tweeked, challenged etc. causing minor changes in the laws. Cease N Desist Orders don't just fall off the face of the earth, any ARE stored for reference, ignored or not. As I said before I had made any real money no I wasn't sued BUT it will make things harder for you to sell music to labels in the future if you have sample cases. No arguement money, do your thing if you see fit, and I'll continue doing mine.

peace, Doc

By pad-ophiliac Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:50 pm
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