Beat juggling over an MPC

anyone tried this?

(beat juggling a couple of breaks over a beat on your mpc)

thought i'd try something new and gave it a go earlier, its pretty difficult. the beat i had on the mpc didn't go with the break i was juglin to well. am gonna give it another go tomorrow with a beat and break that match better. its tricky, cos doesn't allow you any space for imperfections, but quite good fun still. need to get my mpc sett up closer to my decks really for this.

threshed wrote:But if you a programer that likes the sp303 style sample cut off where you hit a pad and it cuts off the break exact for no overlap then chop your break like so. For a break with 16 steps you will want to make 16 different slices of the original break. For each slice you will chop off one more 1/16 off of the front of the break so each of the 16 slices except for the origan of course, is one 16th smaller than the last. This gives you a different starting point for each sample. Assing one per pad in a single pad bank. Then go to the pitch window in the program section (in the 4000), and set all the pads to the same mute group. Now your ready for battle. This technique simulates beat jugling like mad.
THRESHED

This should do the trick for you. If you want more technique just look up the thread that I quoted this segment from: http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php ... highlight=

If you use a keyboard as I listed in the thread and group the breaks using one pad bank per "sp606 style sample cuttoff" break then you will be able to juggle with 6 different 16 step breaks. 100% MPC

Enjoy the madness!, THRESHED!

whats up threshed?

i think you missed the point of my post.

i'm talking about using two turntables to juggle a break over an mpc beat.

let us hear what ya got so far, dfens

so far all i got is bullshit. havent touched my decks in months before i tried this. gimme a week to see how i can work it and i'll try and post something.

cool
i tried it a few times and its pretty hard
u should try to make a beat without the mp and use only your decks, ur mixer and a tracker. so start with scratching the hats first, add kick & snare and then if you ve got the beat groovin, add a bass and all.
the first few attempts are going to be wack tho ... well with me it is

yeah man i've been thinking about trying something like that. would be really easy to do in ableton (which is what i use)

check this vid - would be cool to do something like this with turntables instead of beatboxing

http://www.ableton.com/_common/download ... beyond.wmv

I'm about to sell of a load of kit to pay for a TTM56 and serato scratch live

http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=36140

might consider getting a midi pedal board so i could try something like kid beyord with turntables.

hmmmm ableton, serato and ttm56 - makes me drool!

You could also beat juggle a beat into the MPC, sample it, loop it, and use it as a basis for a track.

I've done the other thing, where you scratch each drum into a multitracker......long ago in the 4-track cassette days. The key is to do it to a click track, so the beat is steady.

In my DJing days, I got pretty decent at mixing and scratching, but I can't beat juggle worth a shtt.

In my DJing days, I got pretty decent at mixing and scratching, but I can't beat juggle worth a shtt.

i'm not any good at it myself (juggling), but just thought i'd give it a go. always good to try new things whatever.

DFENS wrote:whats up threshed?

i think you missed the point of my post.

i'm talking about using two turntables to juggle a break over an mpc beat.

Yeah I know, but the reason I posted that as a reply was so your timing would be perfect cus you said "its tricky, cos doesn't allow you any space for imperfections", so I thought why not just do it all in the mpc. Especialy since your not the best at beat juggling. Solution

i already know how to chop a sample up, its very easy. but that would not be beat juggling - it would be choping a sample and layering it on to a beat.

am trying to learn something different, its good to challenge yourself with new things. these things take practice and dont come easy.

DFENS wrote:i already know how to chop a sample up, its very easy. but that would not be beat juggling - it would be choping a sample and layering it on to a beat.

am trying to learn something different, its good to challenge yourself with new things. these things take practice and dont come easy.

I guese you cant read between the lines. Im talkin bout 6 breaks seqmented on their own progams ready to be filtered for layering purposes, and ready to be integrated seamlesly using a cuttoff method that simulates beat juggling to a fukin T, but with the perfect timing of the mpc. Its like juggling with 6 tables.. practice that.. I guese you dont realy understand the mechanics and permutative function of beat juggling. Just cuz I reffered to the choping as part of the set up doesnt mean im just talkin about choppin a sample. Im talkin about a method that is perfect for integration and implementation of your mpc with your decks. So i'll better clarify how to take advantage of this setup. First setup your turntable and mixer with your Mpc inplace of your 2nd turntable. And pre match your beat and then perfect your timing of your juggle till your on point with the Mpc and content with your ability. Using the Mpc in place of one of your turns acts as a crutch and gets you intune with the machine, aswell as giving you an extra few seconds that would normaly be used spining back the break on the 2nd turntable. And after you get done acclaimating with the Mpc's timing, add the second table and play your sequenced beat on the Mpc and and go at it. Once you replace the Mpc with your 2nd turntable set your Mpc up higher than your mixer and right behind it for access. This technique also helps build ambedexterity so you can build up your presicion with your less dominant hand, if you switch sides that the Mpc is on when using one turntable with it. Ive done this before otherwise I wouldnt have replied. I guese I should have listed in steps for ya and spelt out the logic. But its as easy as that.

Commence

try to sample off beat and then try it ,cause when you beat juggle your starting on the bass right that might work,
i can do this stuff any more either i tried to get back into it but it's not me anymore after 28 you slow down
i envy you if you can fo it i've thought of doin the same many times i just don't have it in me anymore. i just mix occasional scratch thats all i'm good for .


good luck DFENS

I guese you cant read between the lines.

dont get cocky or start throwing your toys about....

i understand what you are saying and i understand how its done

its just i'm talking about using turntable skills on top of an mpc beat.

DFENS wrote:

I guese you cant read between the lines.

dont get cocky or start throwing your toys about....

i understand what you are saying and i know how to do that

its just i'm talking about using turntable skills with an mpc.

me too sucka.. haha! Dont trip. Just makin sure cuz you "seemed to be" misenterpeting my statement.

DFENS wrote:i already know how to chop a sample up, its very easy.

I guese you cant read between the lines.

Sorry.. Ive just got to much steam these days.. I already took all my toys apart or attached them to explosives.. now all I have is audio..

Keep at it though. Since your already familiar with the technique, do you have any preferences or insight about conducting such a procedure? Or any ways of improving upon what has already been stated?

Oh, and a filter trigered via foot switch would be dope to patch the tables through especialy if you slaved it to the mpc and sequenced the sweeps.. MFC42?

ps. im diggin the cold rush track..