Talk about the music biz - marketing, promotions, contract law, copyright etc...
By dehromie Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:11 pm
I hate when i send a disc with beats to get copywritten and then the next day I create something that needed to be on that disc protected like the others because you want it to be heard without the risk of it being stolen with nothing to say its yours..It will be a while before I mail off another beat disc.. anyone have the same frustration?
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By bad mind Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:12 am
only frustration i have is having to copyright tracks individually or paying to pull one from a bunch just to give it its own copyright code to register it with ascap... pain in the ass lol

but, well worth it
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By LaJProd Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:09 am
bad mind wrote:only frustration i have is having to copyright tracks individually or paying to pull one from a bunch just to give it its own copyright code to register it with ascap... pain in the ass lol

but, well worth it

Thats why I only do this when the song is recorded or the person is ready to pay $$$ for the beat!!!!
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By Sweet Time Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:55 pm
Love it when the music is flowing and you want others to hear what you just did and you have to go jumping through copyright hoops just to cover your *ss.

Cheers.
By dknows2 Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:46 pm
Hey Bad Mind, you don't have to copyright your songs individually. If you copyright them as a collection, they will have the same rights as an individual copyright. It's the same cost plus the same protection to do it this way. On the form, you title the collection and there is a line where you can list the individual songs contained in the collection. I verified this with the library of congress; the collection has the same rights. I hope this helps.
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By GRMM D Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:34 pm
[quote="dknows2"]Hey Bad Mind, you don't have to copyright your songs individually. If you copyright them as a collection, they will have the same rights as an individual copyright. It's the same cost plus the same protection to do it this way. On the form, you title the collection and there is a line where you can list the individual songs contained in the collection. I verified this with the library of congress; the collection has the same rights. I hope this helps.[/quote

i was just gonna ask this question. so as far as LP/EP wise does this same rule apply? is that considered a collection?
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By Sweet Time Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:59 am
I thought several songs could have the same copyright code. It would be cruel to think that you'd have to copyright each selection. But maybe that is the case. Can anyone get an answer from ASCAP?

I know you can search what has been copyrighted in the Library of Congress and that may shed some light on this question.

http://www.copyright.gov/records/cohm.html

Well I searched the records for Frank Zappa tunes and sure enough lots of them each had their very own PAu-###'s.

The copyright form for a Sound Recording (Form SR) may have to accomadate a complete work like an LP/EP just by the very nature of a sound recording because of how many tracks it contains.

I checked out Frank Zappa because he was the copyright claimant not a larger record conglomerate.

Happy Hunting
By morfierce Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:33 am
Fellas whats good?

I just want to add a good piece of info I learned on the road from 2 reliable sources, a local Entertainment Law Firm and an organization called Dynamic Producer who are dedicated in educating and raising young and aspiring producers into the industry and who has relationships with highly reputable New York Entertainment Law Firms.

Both sources claim that yes you do not have to Copyright one track at a time but recently a judge in a Copyright Infridgment case awarded to the people who filed the lawsuit 1/10th of the payout claim of sales because it was a collection of 10 records all filed under 1 copyright filing!!!

So the legal expert advice is if you are filing for a law suit and want 100% payout of all sales make sure the record or track that was stolen from you was filed by itself and not in a collection. One![/quote]
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By Sweet Time Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:38 pm
Morfierce, thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering why each titile had been registered when I did a search in the copyright office. That's a good bit of info. From what I remember you can pay a flat rate for a year and file with the copyright office instead of paying $40 or whatever each time.