Zoning Soon!

kingquota wrote:

Antonym wrote:the mpc 1000 already has delay

what delay? and where is it?

You can program delay manually by taking advantage of 16 levels and velocity, but it's not quite the same thing, and you can't change variables and modulate like you could if it was an actual part of the efx unit.

Antonym wrote:
i'd like delay on the mpc, but honestly i never use any of the non-filter effects on it whatsoever. not worth the hassle.

co-sign

You can program delay manually by taking advantage of 16 levels and velocity, but it's not quite the same thing, and you can't change variables and modulate like you could if it was an actual part of the efx unit.

i dunno man - i like to delay something manually and let the filter ride out to a low pass. or have a pre-delay that starts from a low or hi pass and rides up to normal...

the more control i have over my sound the better, and at least for the way i do things manual delays work pretty damn nicely. but hey if akai dropped some good effects onto the 1k i'd be happy.

that's why i bought an sp404, to make up for the mpc's lack of effects. i use reason's a lot but that's only for additional layering and synthesization...sound module stuff... now if only roland would ship them to zzounds so they could ship it to me....wtf i ordered that shit two weeks ago and it's not even at zzounds yet.

I want the update NOW!!!!!! I don't want to have to use my computer until I'm recording & mixing the track. Going back and forth kills my workflow.

i never use the computer, only to track and mix

ONE wrote:

Penfold wrote:

ONE wrote:

Penfold wrote:lazy buggers!

The only Lazy buggers are Akai for not developing their sh!t before they put it out and making cats wait for 2-3 flowers years for the functionality of their machines to be commensurate with the asking price, and still be sub par with the technology that is being used by other companies.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!! FULLY!!!! but we all know this and accept it but still complain and still buy there ****! so hence i still lazy buggers but really ur RIGHT!

haha

I ain't buying their ish no more........

Only thing I'm using that's akai now is the dps12, and at a future date I'm sure I won't be using that either. I'm using it until the wheels fall off then I'll use something else non Akai or maybe computer based for recording.

There's so much more out there for gear, and other companies are making leaps and bounds with their gear and it's going under the radar of a lot of hip hop cats because it comes in a different package than the beatbox MPC.

No one has to be reliant on Akai or MPC's. You want real time timestretch? Delay? Timestretch? Note shifting? Zoning? etc. etc. well go buy something that has all of what you are looking for and be happy, because it's out there for you, even if it's not in your MPC. I just realized this.

Instead of belly aching and wishing the 1k had this and that and being disappointed because there was a lot of things I couldn't do with it, I said flowers it and bought something that had everything I needed, and I'm kicking myself because I should have bought something like this in the first damn place instead of just buying something that was known for making ruff hip hop beats.

I purchased the Triton Extreme, and I'm really happy with it. The sampling engine is killer, it uses cf card and loads wav files. Has both a master and a slave usb port for cd rom, hard drive or even a usb hub to connect a bunch of ish. Has tons of dope sounds. The tube that it has makes things sound really warm and gives enough bass to bring down the house. The tbe tube really transforms and gives madd feel to sounds. Efx are killer, has that same timestretching capabilities as the 2500, also has something that is exactly like recycle. You can put in as much slices wherever you want in a sample, and it's all layed out across the keys. The sequencer has tons more options. If I want that gritty sound I can change the bit rate of samples to as low as 8 bit I believe and it actually sounds really good.

So basically I can make any style of music with this thing even the old fashioned dirty boom bap to lil jon ish if I wanted to. It's just that versatile. Plus, I'm starting to learn keys and learn about synthesis hands on, and it's in the same price range as an MPC. This type of thing is labeled more as a crunk or a pop machine, but if cats would open their eyes and see what the capabilities of the machines are instead of WHO uses them and for what style it's primarily "known" for and made their purchases based on that, I think we would have more happy beatmakers in the world.

Again ONE you are spot! ON!!

I suppose if I was not so used to the MPC feel, I would have bought a Triton too, I have seen this baby in action and basically pisses over alot of drum machines out there including the MPC's, but as always the USP of the MPC such as the PADS has for some reason managed to over come the years... or has it?

Capshun wrote:

shukone wrote:this is good news. i know how to chop using extract, but it takes much time. i'd love to see the "real" zoning...

i chop faster using extract than using hte computer, it takes less time to do it in the mpc, than to put it on the computer, and chop there, to much time

I agree with this man. and all these new features is getting my special place all warmed up




















my mpc fool!

I was wondering what exactly zoning does. Ive only had the 3000 and 1000. does zoning chop samples or just show where its supposed to be chopped? thanks

hydroslanger wrote:I was wondering what exactly zoning does. Ive only had the 3000 and 1000. does zoning chop samples or just show where its supposed to be chopped? thanks

i posted this a couple of pages back on this same thread but here it is again. if you have Real Media, you can view this

http://www.hiphopproduction.com/video/chopping01.rm
http://www.hiphopproduction.com/video/chopping02.rm

it shows zoning

ok.. im new to this software/os things, i´ve just been using my sampler the way it was when i got it from the store.. where can i buy/download/find these operative system update things? how do i use them? i can do the same thing as zoning on my mpc 1k, but it often takes a whole lotta time.. it seems like its much easier/faster to do it with the zoning feature..

fredfades wrote:where can i buy/download/find these operative system update things? how do i use them? i can do the same thing as zoning on my mpc 1k, but it often takes a whole lotta time.. it seems like its much easier/faster to do it with the zoning feature..

if you're talking about the 1k system updates, you can download them HERE there is also a document that explains how to do it. if i were you, i would get the latest one that is there. but keep cheking back, a new one is coming soon. the latest one that is on that site does not have the zoning features.

ONE wrote:I purchased the Triton Extreme, and I'm really happy with it. The sampling engine is killer, it uses cf card and loads wav files. Has both a master and a slave usb port for cd rom, hard drive or even a usb hub to connect a bunch of ish. Has tons of dope sounds. The tube that it has makes things sound really warm and gives enough bass to bring down the house. The tbe tube really transforms and gives madd feel to sounds. Efx are killer, has that same timestretching capabilities as the 2500, also has something that is exactly like recycle. You can put in as much slices wherever you want in a sample, and it's all layed out across the keys. The sequencer has tons more options. If I want that gritty sound I can change the bit rate of samples to as low as 8 bit I believe and it actually sounds really good.

how much did you pay for that joint?...looks expensive

*starts to break dance*

*eyebrows raise slightly as Krumping begins to take hold*