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By cooocooo1 Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:02 pm
mr wright, if I were you Id look into a Mac and Digital Performer...

I would go this route myself but Ive spent waaayyy too much time learning PT
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By jaem Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:10 pm
cooocooo1 wrote:mr wright, if I were you Id look into a Mac and Digital Performer...

I would go this route myself but Ive spent waaayyy too much time learning PT


hehehe.......


thats exactly what I did for my home studio after learning PT fairly well....

unfortunately I now need much more DP training/experience
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By punkdISCO Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:15 pm
"..but some of ya'll have a funny style obsession with hatin Pro Tools and I wonder how many of you that hate it so much have ever used it. To each his own...."

For sure dude. I am absolutely not anti-ProTools; how can I be as indeed I am one of the one's who has never used it. However, I can read and I read a lot from very respectable sources (not forums :) ) so I have a very good understanding of what ProTools is good at and not so good at. One thing I do know for sure is that PT is probably not the best system for people who are new or inexperienced people (a considerable majority of the people in these forums). However, it is probably the most widely used package and is certainly the most wide suggested answer to newbie "what software should I use" questions despite being one of the least appropriate..

The HipHop community really is the ONLY community out there where PT is considered a must have even for 'Producers' who have barely started puberty, let alone have any understanding for the process of composing, arranging, and recording tracks.. I really think it is a shame as I wonder how many people have started up with PT and then packed everything in a year later when they are frustrated with their lack of results, never again to return to the music industry...

By mwalker Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:26 pm
For sure dude. I am absolutely not anti-ProTools; how can I be as indeed I am one of the one's who has never used it. However, I can read and I read a lot from very respectable sources (not forums Smile ) so I have a very good understanding of what ProTools is good at and not so good at. One thing I do know for sure is that PT is probably not the best system for people who are new or inexperienced people (a considerable majority of the people in these forums). However, it is probably the most widely used package and is certainly the most wide suggested answer to newbie "what software should I use" questions despite being one of the least appropriate..

The HipHop community really is the ONLY community out there where PT is considered a must have even for 'Producers' who have barely started puberty, let alone have any understanding for the process of composing, arranging, and recording tracks.. I really think it is a shame as I wonder how many people have started up with PT and then packed everything in a year later when they are frustrated with their lack of results, never again to return to the music industry...



co sign.
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By DFENS Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:32 pm
i kinda feel the same about punkD on this. i DO hate on protools tho, but thats mostly because these threads usually do get started by newbies starting out and wanna buy PT so that for all the bullsh1t wrong reasons. i dont think PT has anyplace in small project studios, as there is an ambudence of better options. learning PT because its 'industry standard' is so fukin tierd.

By cooocooo1 Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:35 pm
i feel ya'll, to me the biggest problem noobies have with PT is hardware conflicts, I think PT catches a bad rap for this 99% of the time. The app itself is one of the simpler ones imo......

that said, I definitely feel the majority of basement beat makers would be much happier with Cubase, Sonar, etc. Higher track count, more hardware options, less computer conflicts. PT le is just a plot by digi to get consumers hooked on PT, hit the performance ceiling and spring for an HD system
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By chaone Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:16 pm
MAC!!! I have 5 of them no crashes or nothing.. Get a MAC!
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By jaem Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:36 pm
DFENS wrote: learning PT because its 'industry standard' is so fukin tierd.
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ummm...no

in fact the opposite is true


if your a beat maker who is transferring a tracked out beat to produce in a pro studio, there is a large chance you will have to do some sequencing in the studio on the fly....if you dont know PT you are at the mercy of the engineer
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By DFENS Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:49 pm
fair point, but i meant that more in regard of a newbie starting out...
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By waxmastawes Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:52 pm
protools? lol i use COOL-EDIT-PRO B!tCHEZ!!

By mwalker Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:04 pm
if you use pro-tools le at home can you run a full blown pro-tools hd system in a studio?
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By jaem Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:11 pm
i learned on PT free......

By cooocooo1 Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:16 pm
mwalker wrote:if you use pro-tools le at home can you run a full blown pro-tools hd system in a studio?


absolutely, assuming of course that you know PT well

the software is the same, HD just takes away the limits of the "limited edition"


it's like drivin a mustang one day and a lambo the next, just have to adjust to the power

By Rob_10304 Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:04 pm
Most of you people missed the point!

i wasnt saying 'if you wonna be sucessfull you gotta have Pro Tools' (well i did, but it wasnt supposed to sound like that)

someone asked 'why is Pro Tools the industry standard in recording SOFTWARE!!!!!' yes thats right SOFTWARE! i didint mention anything about albums recorded using analouge equipment, i didnt mention a word about the f*cking white stripes never entering the Digital Domain! (btw - who cares about the White Stripes anyway?)

i was just trying to educate a few simple minded people as to why Pro Tools is the industry standard, and as to why if you want to be taken seriously and to be considered for work in the Music/Post Production Industry, then its important you know Pro Tools and are familiar with using it!!! Most Post Production and some of the more established music production and broadcast companies wont even bat an eyelid at you if you dont have some sort of Pro Tools qualification!

i garuntee you nearly all commercialy released Music C.D's in recent years will have touched Pro Tools in one way or another, and i garuntee you about 99.9999% of most Big Budget Films will have been Mixed and Edited in Pro Tools in one way or another!!

punkDisco - if youve been in the industry for 20 years and are still spending your spare time posting on MPC Forums isnt it about time you gave it up??? c'mon! you clearly havent made it! stop kidding yourself man! lol

RoB[/quote]


hope you're getting that endorsement check in the mail buddy.........


btw why dont you enlighten us as to what most industry cats are using for surround mixes???????


and as for the 'high quality controllers" you speak of......they are extremely overpriced (that is prolly the understatement of the year)......


if you have half a brain and the budget to design a DAW....you could do a lot better than some HD system, unless you wanna be like everyone else on the block and get ripped off like everyone else on the block


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do you even know what a Pro Tools HD system is??? the thing is with you, is that you seem quite ignorant for someone with such a big mouth!! do some f*cking research and then talk to me!

RoB
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By DFENS Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:16 pm
someone asked 'why is Pro Tools the industry standard in recording SOFTWARE!!!!!


.....who asked that :?:

???

...someone in a different thread :?: ...or perhaps in a different forum :?:

???