2 part question JAHROME

2 part question.

I want to delete a LOT of the flash rom samples--yet when I go to load and save and use the windows I cannot find where I can delete them from the memory at. Do I need to delete the samples in TRIM mode then re-save the program?

Secondly, saving onto my hard drive-- I created 3 folders with sounds in them and saved them onto my CF card. I then made 3 programs in bluebox and tried to open them in the 2500--they opened but NO SOUNDS! What's up with that? Mute is NOT on. I don't get it. I want to have the program I saved in bluebox to auto load from the HARD DRIVE when I start it up.

cre8tive wrote:Secondly, saving onto my hard drive-- I created 3 folders with sounds in them and saved them onto my CF card. I then made 3 programs in bluebox and tried to open them in the 2500--they opened but NO SOUNDS! What's up with that? Mute is NOT on. I don't get it. I want to have the program I saved in bluebox to auto load from the HARD DRIVE when I start it up.

first, in bluebox, how did you save them? did you select save or save all?

the save function just saves a pgm file without the samples. save all saves the pgm file along with the samples. be carefull when using save all, make sure you "save all" in it's own folder or else you will have samples all over the place in whatever folder you have selected. once you saved it like described above, transfer the entire new folder over to the 2.5k. you now have sound.

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Saving/loading singular programs w/ sounds is possible. When you load a Program, you can select whether you want to load only the program or load the program with samples.

Jahrome did you find out how to delete the samples? I still can't find it.

They only way I see to erase the flash rom is to save something to the flash rom, which will in turn erase and replace it with what you are saving.

Who generally produces the presets for mpcs anyway? Who decided they need to be like the General Midi of samples. Akai should license some chopped as hell song for demo purposes. Or just a couple of decent artists form the hip hop / electronica / house field whatever / rock / and have each sampler packaged differently like the "mpc that comes with house presets by metro area" or "the sampler that comes with techno presets by carl craig". They would take more marketing material in form of brochures photo and packagin but at least it would hype their shit up better, generate more sales and have more people check for that shit. instead we have that oh so quintessential pete rock sponsorhip that eloquently speaks to our target group of midwestern backpackers mentally aged 14.

more, better business, faster ROI, better R&D, more updates, happier consumers.

Akai has always thrown in a bunch of demo material and basic sounds. I have never really used any of them. Check out MPC Sounds and Forat for some decent drum kits.

In my opinion mahoney that sounds kind of wack. Its funny how you mention a narrow appeal of Pete Rock and then drop a name that only techno people would know. wow you know how quick techno sounds from carl craig would get deleted of my MPC?

mahoney's right about this issue. Techno sounds and others should be included. Doing that would help AKAI make the MPC appeal to a wider audience. It's something they better consider. There is a slow buyer demand for the 2500 since its price is higher than the 1000 and 2000XL. Roland designs their products for several types of customers. This makes their line so popular. They don't just market something like the V-Synth or MC-909 for techno users. Power on the MC-909 and you'll find Hip Hop sounds as well as those for other genres.

Hurricane Producer wrote:
There is a slow buyer demand for the 2500 since its price is higher than the 1000 and 2000XL. Roland designs their products for several types of customers. This makes their line so popular. They don't just market something like the V-Synth or MC-909 for techno users. Power on the MC-909 and you'll find Hip Hop sounds as well as those for other genres.

First of all...the comment about the demand is completely false. Authroized dealers in the US will be shipping them within the next 2 weeks perhaps. In Japan where I purchased several, they have been flying off shelves. My wife had to place an order when the store she does business with ran out (it took only 2 days though).

Roland markets things like the Fantom and the V-synth...and then a year or so later, repackage them as the Fantom X and V-Synth Version 2/XT. Lets not forger the # of XV synths and all the discontinued Grove Boxes..as well as the VP-9000. I ain't riding for any one company but at least put out all the facts.

As far as sounds...for every one that wants some cheesy presets..there are 3 or more that wants some sample editing trick or what not..

Roland designs gear for consumers and professionals and every where in-between. Ain't mad at that.

I forgot about this topic and finally got back to it.

jahrome wrote:First of all...the comment about the demand is completely false. .

First of all, your analysis of the demand is completely false. Check the sentiment on this website as well as the way eBay sales of the 2500 are going. Very few are being sold any more.

Hurricane Producer wrote:I forgot about this topic and finally got back to it.

jahrome wrote:First of all...the comment about the demand is completely false. .

First of all, your analysis of the demand is completely false. Check the sentiment on this website as well as the way eBay sales of the 2500 are going. Very few are being sold any more.

you can not base the overall sales whether it be increased or decreased of an item based on ebay sales. why don't you do your analysis based on store supply and demand. ebay is nothing in terms of doing any analysis. and the people on this website is but a very small fraction of buyers all over the world who could have gotten their mpc the same way the both of you got it. besides, it was only released in japan. it's not released in the UK or the US so for someone to say there is a slow buyer demand is ludacris. there is no way that any of us can forcast a sales margin when the product is not even released world wide. if you want to make a comment like that find a store in japan that sells it and ask if their demand has become less than the supply they have and then you can say that buyer demand has slowed down in that regional area.

Jahrome paraphrased what Hurricane Producer wrote:


Jahrome..you ain't shiznit. Your MPC 2500 ain't shiznit, your Motif ES ain't shiznit, your Proteus 2000 ain't shiznit..in fact you don't even create ain't shiznit

I guess I am equally making friends and enemies here. But the lord says love them all..so I luv you Hurricane

Ok now...
eBay sales has nothing to do with the popularity/demand for the MPC 2500 that hasn't even hit the US. Yeah..I have called everybody and no one has it yet. As far as eBay, there are not many people that want to purchase items that comes with no warranty..especially if you are paying $2000. eBay is polluted with criminals so it is no surprise that buyers will hesitate purchasing items there (unless the are getting it from that #1 MPC seller or DHLKID, who lives in Hong Kong). Now if you have insight into how many of these units were sold already, I applaud your investigative work. But I can tell you I know first hand that sales are not 'slow;. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

But honestly..who really care if sales are slow. We may talk and joke about different pieces of gear (the MPC 4000 is the anti-Christ)..but it won't stop people from doing what they want with the gear they select (let me blow the dust off of my gear).

Since it seems people are not taking the time to read..I will post again. I have been using the MPC 2500 for several weeks trying to translate a Japanese manual:

注意：各リージョンのスタートポイントは一つ前のリージョ
ンのエンドポイントと共通の値となります。リージョンのス
タートポイントを変更すると、一つ前のリージョンのエンド
ポイントも一緒に変更されます。


Yeah..that's what I thought

Does it matter to you that I have a dining room full of gear that I don't use?? I have done the best I can speaking on the MPC 25000 but I am not getting paid for anything, whether I am correct or incorrect. This is a forum to discuss things. When I am right, I get a thank you (some times). When I am wrong, I get a response from people like you with a smart azz comment (but I ain't mad at cha) while others will point out that I made a mistake and show me the correct way...and I appreciate it.

Thanks for posting the way to erase the flash memory. It would be easier to have a menu that states ERASE FLASH MEMORY..but that will do. I erased the flash memory when I first turned on the unit and turned off the auto load so it is something that I never though twice about. Did yor figure this out by reading the manual or hands on use of the MPC 2500??

Hurricane Producer, thanks again for your useful comments. You can come over my place and play with my toys if that makes you happy. I just returned from Guitar Center where I ordered the Fantom X workstation. I now have the wonderful real-time timestretch that my MPC 2500 is missing

And I am curious..what MPCs or similar products do you use?

sparq wrote: if you want to make a comment like that find a store in japan that sells it and ask if their demand has become less than the supply they have and then you can say that buyer demand has slowed down in that regional area.

Give us the Japan price and I'll bet they will be a hotter than hell. Until then it's $2,000 + a few hundred more for expansions. Total with shipping + (optional) tax = $2,500 (approx.)

How many of you reading this post are dying to rush down to the store? Let's hear from you. If you feel otherwise then let's hear why you aren't going to run down there.

jahrome wrote:Since it seems people are not taking the time to read..I will post again. I have been using the MPC 2500 for several weeks trying to translate a Japanese manual:

Did you know you can download the English manual? Why bother with the Japanese version?