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By punkdISCO Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:07 pm
Hi Rob

"i was just trying to educate a few simple minded people as to why Pro Tools is the industry standard, and as to why if you want to be taken seriously and to be considered for work in the Music/Post Production Industry, then its important you know Pro Tools and are familiar with using it!!! Most Post Production and some of the more established music production and broadcast companies wont even bat an eyelid at you if you dont have some sort of Pro Tools qualification!"

I think we might be coming at this from different ends. You sound like you are interested in the engineering aspect of music, which is fine.. I think most people in here are musicians/writers and are likely to not be directly involved with post production etc. We need to write music efficiently, keeping a vibe going thus staying creative - this is why we all use the technically very basic MPCs as they are about Vibe and not features. This is also exactly why I now use Live - so much fun!! Its like an MPC on steroids..

But my friend, you cant use language like 'simply minded people' and then expect people to take your comments seriously - if you want your views to be respected, you have to present them in a respectful manner..

"punkDisco - if youve been in the industry for 20 years and are still spending your spare time posting on MPC Forums isnt it about time you gave it up??? c'mon! you clearly havent made it! stop kidding yourself man! lol"

Where did you read that I am in the music industry Rob? Not from anything I have every posted. I wrote "been writing music for 20 years" and indeed I will be writing music until I die. I am a musician and I will die a musician. Sure, I would jump at the chance to do this for a living but statistically that is unlikely - London is the second most expensive place to live in the world next to Tokyo, so you have to earn quite a bit just to stand still..

"btw - who cares about the White Stripes anyway?"

Probably the millions of people that have purchased their albums..

btw - did you post the link to your tracks? If so I missed it so please post again.. Links to our tracks (non-ProTools) are at the bottom of all my posts. They are not that good but I get a load of fun making them and occasionally I get a compliment which makes be buzz for days...
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By Mantis Beats Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:42 pm
Isn't this tread about Pc or Mac ? Not Pro-Fools, I mean Pro-Tools

Anyway, a production set-up is only as good as the user !

9th Wonder uses a basic PC with Fruity Loops, and pair of head phones... decide on your weapon (software) of choice, and know your equipment thats what I say !

By cooocooo1 Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:58 pm
the thread is supposed to be about which is better for runnin Pro Tools LE
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By Penfold Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:03 pm
mwalker wrote:
All those cats using Cubase, Ableton, Acid etc, thats all fair enough, you gotta start somewhere, but sooner or later youll realise, if you wonna be a Pro you gotta have the right Tools!


wow :roll:

yo, Penfold you can handle this one.



Yeah no problem,

First of all, I dont believe in MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO! Just cause some guy manage to mix a nice track in pro-tools dont mean it should be considered an industry standard. Pro-Tools in it self is like many other variations of HDD Tools I have used over the years, like SoundScape HDD by Mackie, Carillon Audio and yes DigiDesign. What they all have in common is They are PURPOSE SPECIFIC Built gear.

They all have there own hardware and software that works exclusively, which basically makes it more stable and realiable. Its not a standard but it is a so called favourite cause of its USP, (unique selling points) for those not not marketing minded..those being the hardware aspect the A/D convertors, the actual control you have over your sound is i must say a decent thing, though in my personal opinion I prefer the SoundScape... for software to hardware interaction..

With Digi, you get what you pay for, providing you know how to do what the PROS do. which brings me on to my next point, If you cant engineer like a PRO, pro-tools wont help u one bit!

Also to put them in the same catagory as Cubase and Live, and even Logic, Digital Performer Etc, is waste of time and typing energy cause they are exlcusively software based. using your PC as the hardware. The limitations are in the tools that being the PC.

So in most senses this argument is pointless, cause the actual points are not being addressed. For example, lets compare my Custom Built Daw running Cubase SX and E-Mu 1820 against a Digi 002. Hands down performance wise and budget wise my custom built DAW would tear it to shreds, WHY? cause I built it up to to just that!

to conclude, DO what WORKS FOR U! not for the other GUY, cause your not Him... hence why I call it ProFools.
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By Mantis Beats Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:04 pm
cooocooo1 wrote:the thread is supposed to be about which is better for runnin Pro Tools LE


LOL ma bad, but I knew we lost the plot some where ! :?
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By jaem Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:46 pm
Rob_10304 wrote:
people who say that Cubase SX or Ableton are just as good as Pro Tools have probably never seen a Pro Tools HD Accel system or never really understood the way in which larger, more complex Pro Tools systems work!

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Granted, i'am a home Pro Tools M-Powered user, and in all honestly i probably dont have any more or any less power at my finger tips than those on this forum using Cubase, or Sonar at home

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All those cats using Cubase, Ableton, Acid etc, thats all fair enough, you gotta start somewhere, but sooner or later youll realise, if you wonna be a Pro you gotta have the right Tools!

RoB



Do you even read what you write.......


MPD stands for multiple personality disorder....I would highly advise seeking professional help

By cooocooo1 Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:09 pm
cooocooo1 wrote:Rob has proven on more than one occasion that he's a retard.........